I'm pretty new to the whole online game as explained in my introduction post (Link is in sig, have a look if you like)
I'd like to improve my Online game so's to serve as a sort of part-time pick up. I mainly do my approaches in the club scene, online game is rather foreign to me but I can see how it would be worth using.

To the point; I'm using POF
Been on it about a week or so, and just to be safe I'm using Bravo's opener from this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65fRrFJnrBg (Not used it on every girl, only on ones I thought I would work on, otherwise used my own)
There's never any dry spell with messaging, constantly getting positive replies and straight up messages from HB's I haven't contacted.
I've had four number closes
Got emailed some 'pics' from one girl.
Had a date with another, ended up coming to mine and got f close (HB 8 )
Currently securing a date this week with HB 7
It's going surprisingly good.
BUT, There's one girl who I've had my eye on, We've already talked and it ended up dying out.


The Messages are as follows:

Subject Title: "Serious Question"
(As Bravo suggested to use with his opener)

Me: "Are you one of those girls that takes forever to do her hair and makeup or does it just
look that way?

Lets say you're taking me out for a bite to eat, for one reason or another.
I'm starving havn't eaten all day, you're gonna' take a shower and get ready and all that
stuff, how long until we're out the door?
A) 30 minutes & you look hot and I can't keep my hands off you.
B) 15 minutes and you look pretty cute.
C) 2 hours and I die from starvation."
^(Bravo's opener, No one opener would work on every woman, but this is pretty powerful when used on the right one, they tend to play with the answers and allows to move onto better subjects)



HB: "Ten mins 15 at a push if it's for lunch x"



Me: "for real?
record time, girl. Don't know anyone to beat 30 mins, tops!

Definitely onto a winner then

What brings you to this site then?
Guys in your area blind or something? what's the deal

Xx"



HB: "Guys round here are all on crack! Lol. X"



Me: "Guys on crack just don't do it for you huh?

Anyways, hi there, I'm *myname*
read that you have a **** ton of tattoos as well so lay 'em on me!
Where and what have you got?


Xx"
^(Got a thing for chicks tatt'd up)



HB: "Well put it this way my arse and ears are the only places I haven't got any xxx "



Me: "I'll need proof I'm afraid, pics of ur bum, nowww lol

How're you today then
Xx"



HB: "Haha nice try

I'm good tar and you? Xx"



Me: "Hey it was worth a try at least
big fan of tattoos on girls

Xx"



Seeing it typed out and being able to re-read it I can see why it ended up dying out a bit (Although I would like to hope there's still a chance, surely)
I feel like the "How're you today then " Was the nail in the coffin, made the conversation mundane and void of any chance of escalation.
I'd like to think this can be salvaged and reopened though, So I was thinking of going with Darth's reopener he uses to a cold response in this post best-online-opener-garanteed-to-get-a-g ... 01188.html But you can really only reopen once and I want this to work.



This girl was one of the first I'd messaged on POF is easily a HB 9, I'm very eager to reopen and get somewhere with her.

Thanks.

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401, my introduction post:
here-vp568455.html#568455

Hey man,

Yer ur right the convo has dried up because you have exhausted the opener.

You need to change the subject to something else! I'd use something like "would you say you were spontanious?" & see where that takes you...

You could try an interesting story about ur day or make up something funny but believeable...

see how it goes man, it's ur convo

I thought as much.
Surely other can help too though, would love to hear from a few more PUA's who've maybe been through a similar situation.

Having been used to game in the clubbing scene and no experience in online pick up I was hoping some who are very experienced in it could come to my aid.

Otherwise, I think I'll go ahead with Darth's reopener.
Used it earlier on another HB and managed a number close, it's promising.

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401, my introduction post:
here-vp568455.html#568455

I'm all about sharing material.

I think this will improve all of our games by providing a general framework like Bravo does in his video.

I had a similar thing happen with a HB9-9.5. Here was the conversation I used and even what I used to salvage it (from Jsmooth) to get it back again. Ultimately, this did not lead to a date but it's been a little over a week and I've met 5 girls now using POF

I'd love to know how yiou guys might have proceeded at this point. The mid game tends to be tougher for me.

But anyway, I'll try to share more since I think this benefits everyone with their game


From: tmarie09
Ok
Yes I am, family is very important to me.



From: zmansman87
Sent Date:11/23/2011 7:23:58 PM Subject: um sorriso lindo
You know we were having a great interaction and I got a little excited asking for your
number. Truthfully, I want to get to know you a little better first...Are you really
close to your family?

From: zmansman87
Sent Date:11/22/2011 8:14:36 PM Subject: RE:RE:Serious Question
(THIS is where I FAILED)
interesting.. so what's your number? maybe I can arrange
something and it would be a surprise.. i like someone who
is up for new things

From: tmarie09
Sent Date:11/22/2011 8:12:21 PM Subject: RE:Serious Question
haha a little of both, depends my mood. I like trying new things.



From: zmansman87
Sent Date:11/22/2011 8:09:32 PM Subject: RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Serious Question
depends how adventurous you are.. are you up for karaoke
bar or more of a collecting sea glass by the beach type?

From: tmarie09
Sent Date:11/22/2011 8:00:11 PM Subject: RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Serious Question
depends but i think i could handle that



From: zmansman87
Sent Date:11/22/2011 7:57:42 PM Subject: RE:RE:RE:RE:Serious Question
Really like your profile. I think we can have some fun
together. If you can handle a good date..

From: tmarie09
Sent Date:11/22/2011 7:51:16 PM Subject: RE:RE:RE:Serious Question
lol thanks



From: zmansman87
Sent Date:11/22/2011 7:46:26 PM Subject: RE:RE:Serious Question
lol I hope you can take a joke, I thought you were
adorable, I just had to say hi

From: tmarie09
Sent Date:11/22/2011 7:40:51 PM Subject: RE:Serious Question
Remove what picture?



From: zmansman87
Sent Date:11/22/2011 3:04:54 AM Subject: Serious Question
You should remove that picture

Quick tip - if you get caught out using this as a girl has heard it before don't bother trying to convince her it's a 'coincidence' just fess up, I'd have more respect for you if you don't treat me like an idiot