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PostPosted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 9:55 am 
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Reading that book is one of the best decisions you'll ever make, it
shows you what the community is all about, how even the most
hopeless of peoples managed to rise above themselves to
become their best selves...it's the essential guideline to
everything in this community and to what it can offer.
It's the link to everything that is underground here.

It's great to see you're taking the time to improve
yourself and become better but if you don't read
the basics and learn how others struggled and
eventually became better you are missing
out and leaving out a much bigger piece
in this puzzle on which your own
transformation is taking you.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:01 pm 
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Ok, I decided to order the book.
Tonight I'll place the order.
So to make this clear, It's the book with the longer title right?
http://www.amazon.com/Game-Penetrating- ... 0060554738

This week I came to conclusion that it might not be the AA that's causing my problems.
I think it's the issue of that I'm figuring things too say or act way too late.

2 examples.


I was in the train again last friday, As usual the train company messed up again, so I ended up in an almost completely empty train with only a few people waiting an hour.
There were unclear instructions given by the personel, so I stood in the entrance of the train, doubting to stay on it or leave.
I ran in a short conversation with a guy, and was joined with 2 girls, both looking good.

so there was no approaching to be done, there already was a conversation going
So how hard can it be to mess it up? Well, I somehow achieved it.
Really I could kill myself thinking of the situation (joke, I'm not suicidal).

So when we all decided to go back into the train, I sat down to the seat I was into before.... DAMNIT, why the hell didn't I go sit next to one of those girls instantly!?
I could have proceeded the conversation! there was enough to say.
Ofcourse I realized that too late, so after a few minutes it would be akward to suddenly go sit next to her and continue a topic that has been abandoned.

And now coming to think of it, It wouldn't have been that akward after all.
I could have said something to open again.



Other example,
Yesterday I was in a restaurant with my family, There was a cute waitress assigned to our table. She seemed to be my age.

We had a bit of eye contact and we smiled to each other while doing.
She dropped a glas by accident while leaving the table, so I helped picking up a few bits of glas. I could have said something... but not, my bullshit-defence system was engaged and prevented me for saying something funny.

She came back later to take away some more glasses and I saw she was struggling with handling them all on one plate.
She looked at me and I said "Be carefull" with a smile on my face.
She responded "yeah it's my first day".

I didn't had much time to respond as she walked away with them.
After 3 minutes (that's improvement to 30 minutes) I figured I could have said "Don't worry, You'll be alright" or "I have seen much worse waiters, and they were in buisness for many years"

So I hoped She would came back, so that I could perhaps asked her number.
But Karma didn't agree, and we had to leave before I could see her again.
I looked at the rest of the room but she wasn't there.
Another fail.


It really frustrates me that I always am too late with things!
Like if some stupid defence system in my head tells me "NOOO DO NOT TALK TO HER!! MUST....ABORT....THOUGHTS.....MUST....CLEAR...MIND....EMEDIETLY"


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everything your describing, missed opportunities and fumbled approaches is common.

The way you solve this is always the same, more repetitions snd more accuracy.

On the repetition side its just a numbers game, approach and open as many woman as possible and get out in the field as much as possible. Start employing the 3-second rule with everyone, this is the best way to help with AA.

on the accuracy side, read as much material as you can and improve your game. which is what your just now beginning to do by recognizing you have a problem.

What isnt helpful is beating your self up for past fuckups. It doesn't help your game and will in fact inhibit it. And what you will realize there will be no improvement in the fuck-ups until you push yourself past your comfort zone.

and buy the book already and stop putzing about.


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Yeah Mopet thats the one, order it already haha. Sorry
for the late reply man I was hectic busy this week :)
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This week I came to conclusion that it might not be the AA that's causing my problems. I think it's the issue of that I'm figuring things too say or act way too late.
That is true and it's good that you've now acknowledged that problem
and you can now get past it. The trick man is to not think about anything
else and just make that approach, no matter how daunting or scary
it may seem. I've been in your position so many times man where
I've seen a beautiful, no...magnificently gorgeuous girl walk past
me and then immediatly 1000 thoughts begin to enter my mind
and begin swirling around in there deciding what to say! Most
times I just count to 3 and turn around and begin walking
in her direction. When I begin walking, those thoughts
may become louder as I get closer but I don't give a shit about
anything else that might happen in the future after I approach,
I'm only interested in what will happen in that present moment
and I'll just go with the flow of the world from there.

What I do is, 5 minutes before I go into the field, I consciously
decide on what opener to use and how to transition
from that so afterwards I can go into something else to keep the
interaction flowing. It doesn't have to be
the worlds greatest opener...it doesn't
even have to be funny, the openers
only purpose is to start the
interaction so you can get your foot
in the door! Choose one that suits you
best and one that you find the easiest
to initiate if given the chance and stick
with that one. Don't think about it, just
do it and don't even worry about
the outcome...you know you're
doing it right when the girl
smiles or laughs during
the interaction.

Take it from me man...If the universe gives you
an opportunity, you take it. Don't question where
it came from or how it landed at your feet
when presented to you, just accept it
in that moment. Take
that chance and turn it into
something real.
That's all you need to do...

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Though it's a kind of late reply, I'm pleased to say I finnaly got the book!
(shipping takes ages) I have already read the first 83 pages, and I think this book is gold! a bible! (looks like it aswell)
A lot of it is reckonizable, and the way it's written keeps me interested.

One thing I liked aswell is how much of it can be seen in the TV series "The Pickup Artist" presented by Mistery, certain ways of doing things or negs are very familliar and can be seen performed in the show!

So yes, while waiting for the book to arrive I've watched the show, and I thought it could be very helpfull!

Now I only need to test this knowledge out in the field.
I'll try to hit a few nightclubs with my wing soon, he got more experience in it than I do, which is a good thing.


Btw, one thing I was wondering last night.
As we were watching fireworks (family, neighbours etc.) two girls from somewhere out of the neighbourhood wished us a happy new year as they walked by.
I shaked hands casualy, but when they arrived to a friend of mine, He seemed to say something that let them stay at his presence, they emedietly started talking to him. I assumed they knew him, nothing interesting.

but later that evening (or this morning I should say) I heared he never saw them before.
So now I'm wondering, could it just be an opener that would let them talk to him? or could it perhaps be certain unconcious looks or movements made him stand out?
As far as I saw it, he did nothing special.

If I would ask him what he said, I know I could get no usefull answer out of him, instead I would be boosting his ego for a millionth time.



oh before I forget, Happy new year everyone!


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Bro, all I can say to you is you need to be expose, expose yourself of being a man enjoy while single keep the time most of it. Try go to the bar and make some friends their the hardest thing is how you gonna start of it, just encourage your self to be brave if you can have a start then it goes smoothly. Please do not hesitate to do the right way of being a true man. :wink:


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