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PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 3:24 am 
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I've never done it before and it seems like an AFC thing to do. When my ex left me, the dbag she dated after me gave her flowers and it was well known as it was posted all over her twitter and facebook feeds before I deleted her. I actually one told her while we were dating, I don't believe in giving flowers because flowers die and our love will never die(haha how wrong was I in the end)


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flowers are not inherently good or evil.

it's how you use them that determines it.

good use of flowers: a genuine event that truly inspires you to do something nice just to make her smile really big

bad use of flowers: an attempt at garnering attention/affection/sex/a lame gift on a special occasion

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It's never right! It's the most insensitive unthoughtful gift. It's an easy way of showing a woman that "I don't know what your into so I get you flowers". Its average, its the norm and its not creative. It's what her loser ex Bf used to get her. Its what the sheep do on valentines day. unless she's a flower enthusiast don't do it.

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It's never right! It's the most insensitive unthoughtful gift. It's an easy way of showing a woman that "I don't know what your into so I get you flowers". Its average, its the norm and its not creative. It's what her loser ex Bf used to get her. Its what the sheep do on valentines day. unless she's a flower enthusiast don't do it.
I love it! I was right all along! My ex was just a stupid ho who needed some AFC chump to forget about me! :D


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It's never right! It's the most insensitive unthoughtful gift. It's an easy way of showing a woman that "I don't know what your into so I get you flowers". Its average, its the norm and its not creative. It's what her loser ex Bf used to get her. Its what the sheep do on valentines day. unless she's a flower enthusiast don't do it.
this is not true.

every girl should get flowers once in a while.

hell, i buy my mom flowers from time to time.

i stand by my original post on this.

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flowers are not inherently good or evil.

it's how you use them that determines it.

good use of flowers: a genuine event that truly inspires you to do something nice just to make her smile really big

bad use of flowers: an attempt at garnering attention/affection/sex/a lame gift on a special occasion
I agree...definately depends on the use...if done right, she will really take it to heart. if done wrong they will have zero effect.

Many years ago i did a good use of flowers and she melted...one kid and 4 years later, during our breakup i did a bad use of flowers, found them crumpled under her bed the next day, all with negative effects...


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When you feel like being spontaneous. When things are going well. To break up the monotony and brighten up her day at work with a surprise. When she's not feeling well (not because of something you did.) I might give flowers once a year. More then that and it's kind of like yawn.

Agree that they never make good apology gifts. That's cliche and flowers are really.. useless.


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I've never done it before and it seems like an AFC thing to do. When my ex left me, the dbag she dated after me gave her flowers and it was well known as it was posted all over her twitter and facebook feeds before I deleted her. I actually one told her while we were dating, I don't believe in giving flowers because flowers die and our love will never die(haha how wrong was I in the end)
This is one of the few things Ross Jeffries has ABSOLUTELY right in his material. His mantra is "Dating is for women you are already sleeping with." And this applies equally to gifts like flowers.

Its a cultural symbol of romance, and women who are being dated APPRECIATE that you are romancing them. These kind of gifts BEFORE hitting the bedroom smack of desperation and neediness, BUT, within the context of a dating relationship, they demonstrate your compassion and romance, and foster the feeling of a fairy-tale relationship that girls in our culture are raised on.

This can only be good for you. :D

The whole "they die" thing is a little cheesy. If you want to improve upon it, when you give her your first flower or bouquet, let her enjoy it for a little while, and then PRESS it, or otherwise PRESERVE it.... and tell her "Some relationships wilt and die over time, but others are SPECIAL enough that you take extra care, and preserve them, so they last forever." Its still cheesy, and framed as romantic, but THIS version includes hypnotic mojo for her to treat your relationship as something special and make it last, while also allowing her to enjoy receiving flowers. Win-win :)

Having discussed this with my Lady, her opinion is that once a month is a good rule of thumb.

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lmao @ once-a-month for flowers.

bwahahaha

i'm more of a once a year kind of guy IF the mood so strikes me.

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lmao @ once-a-month for flowers.

bwahahaha

i'm more of a once a year kind of guy IF the mood so strikes me.
Its a little too specific to the individual to actually go by a rule of thumb like that, but I thought it was cute that was her advice ;)

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lmao @ once-a-month for flowers.

bwahahaha

i'm more of a once a year kind of guy IF the mood so strikes me.
Its a little too specific to the individual to actually go by a rule of thumb like that, but I thought it was cute that was her advice ;)
oh haha! i gotcha! i missed the comedy of it!

that IS funny :lol:

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I got my girl some roses and she melted!

Once in a blue moon is good.


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Thanks for the advice. So I will give a girl flowers someday, but not until I'm inside her on a regular basis ;)


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I think flowers, coupled with a box of chocolates and a card with an apology is a good way to get out of the doghouse for something little you did. Not particularly good for a big mistake you've made though.


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I think flowers, coupled with a box of chocolates and a card with an apology is a good way to get out of the doghouse for something little you did. Not particularly good for a big mistake you've made though.
i think this is precisely the advice most are advising against.

1. it is typical

2. it is in line with beta afc behavior

3. it is an effeminate reaction

i would say the worst time to give flowers and chocolates is when you've "done something small wrong"...

as it trains her that anger, and an argument, and you feeling guilty lead to REWARD.

not a good idea to subconsciously associate apologies with rewards.

as she will partake in behavior to make you feel like you NEED to apologize for no reason.

basic psychology.

better to get them just-for-the-fuck-of-it.

btw, this also makes her the prize.

when is the last time a girl bought you flowers after doing you wrong?

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