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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:54 am 
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Been trying POF sarging for a few months now and I have had no luck really. I did have some success with indirect openers but it seemed to die out after trying to transition from them. I've tried direct openers but still had no luck with that either. I am also trying OKCupid and Match. I use the same profile but slightly modified on all sites.

Can someone take a look at my POF profile and photos and tell me if there is something I should change that is holding me back? Perhaps also some message writing advice?

Any help is greatly appreciated. Borderline ready to quit the online game :(

POF username is Marquettefan8810


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Anyone...Anyone...Bueller?


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:54 am 
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First off all change your title and you "do not contact me list". Your took it directly from Bravo PUA which is pretty poorly done as your at least supposed to modify his material - dont be a clone

What you didn't directly copy from Bravo is the same boring shit that everyone else writes on their profile. read some more material and rewrite it to be different, and create an emotional interest. You can get ideas from wherever you like, but don't directly snarf someone else material verbatim.


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First off all change your title and you "do not contact me list". Your took it directly from Bravo PUA which is pretty poorly done as your at least supposed to modify his material - dont be a clone

What you didn't directly copy from Bravo is the same boring shit that everyone else writes on their profile. read some more material and rewrite it to be different, and create an emotional interest. You can get ideas from wherever you like, but don't directly snarf someone else material verbatim.
A bit harsh but I see what you are saying.

The sad part is that was me trying to rewrite to be different. I really am not good at talking about myself... :(

As far as the list goes Bravo said to put in your profile verbatim.

If someone could point me in the right direction that would be great.

I dont know, maybe I am just not cut out for this...


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sorry I was mean, I just get mad when people use stuff verbatim, that's why i only suggest generic stuff when it comes to my own things.

Ok heres what you should do, Get David M's internet guide to online dating, its damn good, I just never use copy and paste letters. Net2Bed is pretty good too for writing profiles but its expensive. A guy on here named Bo has a free internet guide thats good here is a link.

http://www.bosproject.com/dating-women.php?tid=

So rewrite your profile using these guides and it will go much betetr

and when you write a email to a new woman do these 3 things

1. Neg here
2. challenge her
3. complement her on something weired about there profile that other people never notice

and always title your email something that sticks out, Never "hi" or "hey"


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sorry I was mean, I just get mad when people use stuff verbatim, that's why i only suggest generic stuff when it comes to my own things.

Ok heres what you should do, Get David M's internet guide to online dating, its damn good, I just never use copy and paste letters. Net2Bed is pretty good too for writing profiles but its expensive. A guy on here named Bo has a free internet guide thats good here is a link.

http://www.bosproject.com/dating-women.php?tid=

So rewrite your profile using these guides and it will go much betetr

and when you write a email to a new woman do these 3 things

1. Neg here
2. challenge her
3. complement her on something weired about there profile that other people never notice

and always title your email something that sticks out, Never "hi" or "hey"
Thanks man. I made some revisions. Used some of the books lines mixed with my own. Let me know what you think. Tried to keep it as short as possible but with still saying enough.


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Sent out a couple of messages with your guidelines. Some of the profiles are more difficult to do that with because they arent really that interesting. No responses yet. Tried to be direct also.

Anybody elses feedback on my revisions would be appreciated too.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 22, 2011 11:22 pm 
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here is my additional input.

Picture: You have chosen your worst photo as your profile picture. I dont like you and seth rogan smoking a cigarette with you hunched over. replace it witht he edgy one of just you in green shirt and remove the one your using entirely. Also get rid of the purple house one as it makes you look way beta and get rid of you in the white striped shirt you look 13 in that one.

Don't tell people you fix pc's for a living, that seems low end, and chicks don't need to know that, you want to create intrigue and mystic and just hint at credibility.

I rewrote the paragraph for you, if you like it ill rewrite some others:

I graduated last fall with a bachelors in Information Security. I am self-employed and run my own computer business. Crazy how life works out, business is booming and i'm super busy but loving it. Guess "The Secret" works. (+5 bonus points if you know what that is.) I plan on expanding my business soon and hiring additional personnel. Hit me up if you are mindful and competent with PC's, and perhaps you can work from me, I may pay you in cookies and gum but at least you can hang out with me - well worth the effort!

as you can see im adding attractive elements to an otherwise drab profile such as:
confidence, success, humor, fun, and juxtaposing nomenclature.


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here is my additional input.

Picture: You have chosen your worst photo as your profile picture. I dont like you and seth rogan smoking a cigarette with you hunched over. replace it witht he edgy one of just you in green shirt and remove the one your using entirely. Also get rid of the purple house one as it makes you look way beta and get rid of you in the white striped shirt you look 13 in that one.

Don't tell people you fix pc's for a living, that seems low end, and chicks don't need to know that, you want to create intrigue and mystic and just hint at credibility.

I rewrote the paragraph for you, if you like it ill rewrite some others:

I graduated last fall with a bachelors in Information Security. I am self-employed and run my own computer business. Crazy how life works out, business is booming and i'm super busy but loving it. Guess "The Secret" works. (+5 bonus points if you know what that is.) I plan on expanding my business soon and hiring additional personnel. Hit me up if you are mindful and competent with PC's, and perhaps you can work from me, I may pay you in cookies and gum but at least you can hang out with me - well worth the effort!

as you can see im adding attractive elements to an otherwise drab profile such as:
confidence, success, humor, fun, and juxtaposing nomenclature.
It's funny that you mention that he looks like Seth Rogan. About 9999 people have said the same thing. I made the changes you suggested. Also the sad part about that stripped shirt picture is that was me at like age 21. Im 23 now. I look young for my age. That paragraph sounds great actually. If only you could write my messages for me too! Lol. Kidding.

If you have an suggestions for the other paragraphs that would be eve more awesome.


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Sent out some more messages today with your guidelines. No responses. Sent them on match and POF. Got one "read deleted" on POF. This is discouraging...


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I'd add more humor.

For example, instead of saying, "I got a Bachelors in yadda, yadda, yadda.....

Try:
Before you try some of that funny stuff like stalking my Facebook or PoF, be fore-warned! I've got a Bachelors in IT Security and know how to use it. If you're unfamiliar, that basically means I have a black-belt for the Internet, and can take down hackers like butter!

You're PoF is just not standing out. Be a little more playful.


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I'd add more humor.

For example, instead of saying, "I got a Bachelors in yadda, yadda, yadda.....

Try:
Before you try some of that funny stuff like stalking my Facebook or PoF, be fore-warned! I've got a Bachelors in IT Security and know how to use it. If you're unfamiliar, that basically means I have a black-belt for the Internet, and can take down hackers like butter!

You're PoF is just not standing out. Be a little more playful.
I took your advice and have made some more revisions. Tried to keep a bit lighter and playful. Anything else I could change?


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you need to complete the metaphor as butter isn't normally something you take down easily, i think your talking about a "hot knife through butter"

so "take down hackers like butter!"

maybe "take down hackers like my right cross takes down hipsters in drag"

or the safer "cut through hackers like a hot knife cuts through butter"

ill rewrite some of your other paragraphs soon and you can try them on.


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you need to complete the metaphor as butter isn't normally something you take down easily, i think your talking about a "hot knife through butter"

so "take down hackers like butter!"

maybe "take down hackers like my right cross takes down hipsters in drag"

or the safer "cut through hackers like a hot knife cuts through butter"

ill rewrite some of your other paragraphs soon and you can try them on.
Noted and changed. Should I changed any of my photos or look to add more? I honestly don't have a ton in my collection. I'm one of those people that's not the biggest fan of taking pictures...


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