I was frustrated because no one was replying. So I decided fuck it, what do I have to lose, so I started sending out obnoxious messages to girls. And I got a reply each time! Positive replies!

One of those girls actually turned out to be really nice, but I kept pushing her off every time she got close to me. For example, when she implied she wanted my number, I told her "for all I know you could be a creep ", and when she asked me if I liked a tattoo on her arm I said "To be honest, it's fucking ugly. It looks like I'm looking at a mans' arm." And every time I do that, she gets nicer to me. I don't fucking get it. I ended the convo by:

me: "lady, you're going to have to let me go, I still have some work to do before bed, and I need to focus. *points on cheek* kiss me goodnight."

her: sweet dreams handsome *kiss*

Anyway we both declared interest that we'd like to meet. What should my next step be? Do I keep the bad boy attitude through out or should I throw in hot and cold to keep her on her toes? or should I just be nice to her? She likes affection, so I let her in on a few secrets to let her peek on my sensitive side, but over all I kept the bad boy attitude.

Also for the date, she likes doing something active, so I'll probably take her arcading. How should my attitude be?

This is my 2nd day on POF, and I've never been on an online date before, any advice would be appreciated.

I actually like her.

also how long till I ask her out?

I just met her today.

Have you gotten the number close yet?
If so, just be natural, jus be yourself, if your gonna run text game on her, jus be flirty/playful and to the point. Just make sure you stay Congruent. You wanna make the meet up happen as soon as you can, while everything is still fresh.
Hope this helps.

This is absolutely hilarious.

Sigh... women whine about jerks, but they create us.

When we try to be civil, they rub dirt in our faces. We eventually get to the point where we despise and belittle women, and magically they bow down and hand themselves on a platter.

I'll never get women. I also question how long it will take me to get to the point where I also become one of these "jerks".

thank you for taking the time to reply swag and april.

Actually I can easily get her number just by simply asking, but I don't want to. I want to get her so close to me and dependent on me, then say something like "so you still want my number?" and then give it to her.

I'm not usually bad. In fact I used to be very nice, but I think I figured it out. I figured that girls likes to feel security and protection in a relationship right? So when you're acting like you're the shit, you give her a sense of that feeling. She knows that she's safe with you.

So what I suggest you do april is, if you're doing the online thing have the attitude "you're so fucking lucky you're talking to me, because I'm the shit, and you're going to do what I'm going to tell you." But make sure you don't insult her. Just throw in negs every now and then to throw her off her feet and show your dominance.

I hope this helps you buddy, I know it doesn't make sense, but it is what it is.

I'll probably meet her on Friday

it's the only day I'm free lol.

Somewhere in the forum there is a red or black opener, try that to get a date

*Update*

I got the date on Friday and she was dying to get my number.

here's the convo:

her: When can I have ur number man is making me mad!

me: lol is it really bugging you?

her: Yes! It keeps quitting on my phone (her messenger) FUCKING PHONE!

me: I'll give you my number if you promise me something

her: What! Not to text you constantly?

me: lol no, I get a kiss on the cheek when I first see you on Friday

*

* agrees on date.

*

her: Ok ok I will give u a kiss

I gave her my number lol

how am I doing?

You got the date, you got her number...at least I hope she texted you so you have her number too. Keep us updated on how it goes

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this is very interesting!
i want to know what you said in your openers, and everything else!

@april, i know... i'd hate to become a jerk, but i feel as if i have no choice =\

good luck man! Cant wait to see what happens next

(sorry if i have no advice, i'm an AFC =P)

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lol csi, she texted me seconds after I gave her my number.

we go on texting sprees, but then I push her off and tell her I have to work even if I don't just to keep her interested. And I have developed this new technique, I would write down *points on cheek* and she knows that she has to kiss, so she goes like muah!* it's cute

SofaKingDope, my opener was silly lol, she had a list of what she expects in a man so I told her "I pass your list, do you think you can pass mine?" you can find the conversation somewhere up there

but I'm not a jerk to her now, but I'm not nice to her. Does that make sense? I show her that I'm more superior than her by showing dominance. For example, this is among the texting:

her: "Hey woah! You haven't told me your name! And I just know because I just looked at out conversations."

me: "My real name?

Gawd, you're the ultimate stalker aren't you..

You haven't given me my goodbye kiss why should I give you my name?"

her: "Cuz you know my name..."

me: "Give me my good luck kiss first, it's my good luck charm.

her: "MUAH!*" then I let her know my name. And I made her put a little heart next to it.

and just to show you that I'm not only being an obnoxious asshole to her, this is further down our texting spree.

her: "I have no friends."

me: "I'll be your friend "

her: "Aren't u just the sweetest!"

me: "I even have your name saved with the little heart after too "

her: ":O you do not!"

it's also nice to show affection every now and then, I'm not an expert, I'm just experimenting. But she told me she loves guys who are affectionate, so I show her that every now and then.

Looks like you got this whole thing down pat mate. The problem is, trying to maintain the same vibe when you are with her in person since you dont have any time to really think through each response.

Women create a vision of you based on your text/phone game. Yours looks pretty tight but if your vibe in person isnt congruant with the text/phone vibe she'll go cold on you very fucking quick.

I know buddy

It sucks, and in person I'm a quiet person. And even know, I feel like she started losing interest in me starting this afternoon, so I figured it'll be best if I back off and make myself elusive. I know that why? Because she used to barrage text me 3 days in a row, and today, she messaged me good morning (she started it) she kept texting me till around noon, then she stopped. She could be busy, but to be honest, I'm out of fucking negs lol.

I think my next neg should be stop messaging me so much? (Even though I kind of like the attention she gives me, call me a chick idgaf, attention is awesome lol)

any suggestions? what do you guys think?

I'd appreciate it if you guys give me topics of conversation that will help me get her more attracted to me

ok fuck.

She told me she can't make it because her aunt asked her to babysit.

me: I'm sorry if I'm bugging you, but you didn't tell me if you can make it on Friday. My friends were asking me if they should include me with their plans.

her: Oh shit I am sorry!!! Ya make plans, my aunt needs me.

me: Oh ok.

her: I am sorry I have an arrangement with her.

me: Its fine.

her: Ok..

me: Ttyl I guess

her: Someone feels like a downer!

me: I'm fine just let me know if you'd like to go out.

her: Okay..

FUCK I'm an idiot. I hate it when I turn to an emotional fucking shit. I fucking blew it didn't I?

That bitch.. she drew me close to her, then she's fucking repelling me now. Did I blow it pretty bad?

I should find another girl shouldn't I...