So I met this HB8/9 online 6 years ago. we flirted, had great conversation, great chemistry, etc.

Well, she started dating this guy, and a few years later he got jealous of me, and made her cut contact with me. I wondered where she went, but never really pursued it.

Anyway, long story not so long, she added me on Facebook again, and said something to the effect of "My boyfriend wouldn't let me talk to you, so that's why you haven't heard from me. You popped into my head and thought I'd see what's going on with you".

Basically over the next month, I was in the middle of breaking up with my girlfriend of 3 years, and this girl actually mentioned "you should come visit me....but only if you're single, so I can jump all over you".

yada, yada, yada...I'm here. Last night she picked me up, brought me to her apartment, and she cooked me some great food. I met her roommate who (I think) I immediately hit it off with, which I think might help later.

So after dinner she says "I'm really tired, do you mind just going to bed early?" and we ended up in her bed watching some tv. Then we went to bed. Here's where I need your help guys.

She already has expressed interest in me obviously...I'm not stupid enough to fly across the country for nothing. But before I showed up, she did say "No pressure, ok? If you come here with expectations for us, I tend to shut right down".
So last night when I was lying in bed with her, I didn't really know how to take it. I tested her comfort a few times by making some subtle kino, brushing against her...she seemed alright with it, didn't move away from me.

THEN, about an hour later, she got up and said it was too warm and she was going to lay on the couch (it really was damn hot, so I don't really think I was being blown off)

So there's that. Then this morning she was just getting ready for class, and she had me do up her bracelet for her. I guess that could be an IOI?

I got up after she left and met her other roommate who I also instantly connected with. She's very impressed I came out here to see this girl, and she thinks I'm a very nice guy. Hopefully this will help me more than it hurts me.

The plans for today are a Hookah bar and dinner. Perhaps the Hookah bar will give m a chance to escalate Kino a bit easier since we'll be sitting in close proximity and sharing a pipe. We'll see how that goes.

I am also going to try and use her tattoos as an excuse to escalate, possibly to massage if I can make it work.

Still, I'm completely lost as to how to handle this situation. I'm here until Sunday, so I have some time to work with, but I don't want to miss that magic window of opportunity.

DUDE

you need to take advantage of this.

if you are in the same bed, you are golden. she invited you over because you are single!

watch ashton kutcher, he was a pua in the beginning of the film, here he seduces a girl who he is in the same bed with. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tsYKuFFkbg

just a reference point.

But i highly recommend do massages, they are so successful. Get her heartbeat up, read how to give seductive massages.

take her out on a mini date around where she lives, show her places she has never been or things she has never seen. It takes awhile for someone to warm up to you, hop around her town to a few places and have really fun time.

use very good body language the whole time.

bring her back at the end of the mini date to watch a movie, give her a massage, kclose, get naked and fuck.

read around the forum for ideas. you can find many other solutions to this problem.

Good luck.

J Slay

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Alright well last night was fun, but I'm seriously having trouble. I'm having no luck building that flirtatious chemistry we had, or at least keeping it going for more than 1 line.

Went to the hookah bar last night, I think I was playing the alpha role pretty well, making jokes with the other guy there, teasing his girlfriend...but when it comes to the target, I'm unsure what I'm supposed to be doing.

We came back to the apartment and between three of us, we finished 2 bottles of wine that night plus a bit out of a box (classy, I know).

Here's where it gets discouraging. Me and the target were sitting on the couch, with the other two dancing to some music in the living room. She got up and got a drink, and I moved closer to where she was sitting. She came back and she sat farther away. Now that right there is a HUGE IOD, no?

The couple went to their room, and the target announced it was time for bed and set up shop on the couch.

....what...the....heck?

What the heck did I do to turn her off? Is there any way I can save this? Is there maybe some games I can play with her today to try and bring her back? This is very discouraging considering the time and money invested to come see her. I don't necessarily need to f-close...it would be nice, but my goal really is just make out, sleep next to her. I didn't think it would be that lofty of a goal for a girl who invited me "only if I was single".

Teach me!

Im sorry dude.

I would like to "teach" you but it cant be demanded.

I will help you today, but you need to help yourself foremost. DO RESEARCH ON THE FORUM.

anyways...

You are dependent on this outcome because you spent money. Never spend money that you arent willing to lose.

You have this situation with this girl because you failed the first night. Now she is turned off by you because you have failed to be an attractive option that she thought you were.

You may be alpha but you are not that sexual alpha male that she was looking for.

You may not be able to recover from this situation.

I recommend freezing her out. Do not talk to her for the whole day. Come back at night to party with them and pull out shock-and-awe-technique-by-ciaran-not-a-vt84634.html

Use that on her after you all started drinking and you have isolated her, when you are talking 1v1.

If this fails, then you know that you messed up your chances the first night.

Dont worry there are many other women out there and if she rejects you, just leave the group and search the bar or club for other hot women. This may show to her that you are not dependent on her and that you are in fact alpha. She may get jealous and try to get you back. If not, go and try to fclose other hot women.

I wish you luck

J Slay

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I didn't mean to come off demanding. I've read a lot of the forum, it's just hard to boil it down to what I should be focusing on.

If nothing happens here, I'm not going to go home and cry about it, but it would be nice to salvage the trip.

I'll attempt freezing her out tonight. We're going to a concert, so I'm sure there will be lots of HBs to talk to. Once they hear my voice they can't stop talking, because they love my accent here. I guess I could just pick a few HB8 or HB9 girls and just have a good time on my own. I'm sure she'll be begging for attention after that.

Shock and awe, huh? Well it's my last night here, so I may as well pull out all the big guns. I look forward to seeing what happens. Either great success and I get with this amazing girl...or epic failure and I have a great story to tell about that one time I told a girl I wanted to "moisturize my face with the moisture between her thighs"...hahaha (I'm not sure what I'll actually say, but I'll just heat of the moment it, because otherwise it won't sound raw and sexual enough I don't think.)

Either way I'll let you know what happens. And do not worry, there is no one-itis here. I'll be going home Sunday night and already have tentative plans for dates with two different girls and a "guys" night at the clubs to have some fun with the ladies.

Thanks so much for your patience. I'll do my best.

good luck dude.

Let me know what happens

I love to use, "im sorry, i just checked you out "

they love it haha

J Slay

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pretty much blew it.

Her roommate's boyfriend brought his roommates, and he started chatting her up during the show a bit, "what year are you in? how'd you meet your roommates?", etc, etc. Well she's showing some IOIs like facing her body towards him, eye contact, etc.

He number closed through her roommate as we're driving home. Kind of a pussy move, but she thought it was sweet and said he was cute and asked if he was single.

So we go back to the apartment, and then I call her out in a way and said to her "Remember when I used to make you laugh?" and she burst out laughing. "yes, I just remembered".

Well, after some more small talk, she started getting ready to sleep on the couch. I said to her "is this my queue to leave?" and she said "no you can stay there if you want" so I said "well maybe I'll come cuddle you in a bit" and she made a "ttssss" sound. So I thought maybe it was a shit test so I said "ya I'm pretty fucking gross" and she said "No, I didn't say that". Then I said to her "I'll be there in a minute, I have something to finish on my computer (faked typing for a minute). I walked over to her and gave her a really quick (2 second) scalp massage and she looked up and she said "Good night ". I was trying to use that to transition into the covers with her, but apparently she had decided she wasn't gonna have it. I thought to myself "fuck it" and just walked away. Maybe not the best move, but I guess the quick thinking comes with practice.

All I have left is shock and awe for tomorrow. I couldn't get up the nerve tonight, and didn't have the best opportunity. She's doing a paper tomorrow, but I think I'm going to sit down next to her and tell her it's time for a "makeout break", and hopefully escalate a bit from there.

Not likely to work, based on the signals she's sending me, but oh well. I have no time left, and I have nothing to lose.