^ This. Fuck the stereotypes. Make fun of your own stereo types. Rebel against the stereotypes if you want. Just know that the stereotypes are not a limiting factor.

This is my opinion about what I think Indians are preceived as by others, so please no one take offence. This is merely an observation and I spoke to some women friends about it.

AND

I believe media has warped Indian men into goofy characters. Silly accents, nerdy, smell of foriegn foods, ect.. Look at Bollywood! Is dancing and singing "cool" in American culture? Also people who are not familiar with your culture believe women are mistreated in your country so assume the men are possesive and strick.

Have you seen that gay ass show Big Bang Theory? Don't know his name and don't know if he is Indian, but if you were a girl would you date him? I don't think so. Media that has created illusions of different cultures and unfortunately your culture is made to look like the anti-ladies man.

My city has Canada's best science/math university and has a giant population of Indian people. In town people think of Indian's as rich, well disciplined and intelligent. I know Indian people and 95% are far from the stereotypes on TV. I think media's illusion is only limiting by a person's intially thought of you...so all you have to do is open your mouth.

So what's the reason? It's the way media shows your culture to be.

^^ thanks

and when I go out to bars and clubs, how often will women just solely reject men based on media stereotypes or give the nod to the positive stereotype over the negative one?

again my concern is this

I have two friends who do AMAZING with women

1. White guy, 6"2, blonde hair and blue eyes.
2. White Italian guy, 5"9, black hair and green eyes.

If I work hard enough and learn "game" and other stuff, would I ever be able to compete with them?

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How did they help you? All they did was offer you virtual hugs and you're still a whining, complaining, unlikable little twit.
^And the problem is that you STILL think that your natural, habitual characteristics are 'uncharacteristic' of you. How will you ever 'improve' or 'change' if you think that your natural tendencies are already positive? It hurts and it sucks but the only way to make some improvements is to accept that you're an argumentative little twit with a great talent for repelling others.
Sounds good . . . and this is your starting point?
It's your culture's fault, your parent's fault, and Indian girls' fault . . .
It's Indian girls' fault and it's the deep south's fault. . .
It's FOBS' fault and their traditions' fault and it's Americanized Indians' fault.
It's your experience's fault and I bet that bad experience was her fault.
It's the Indian culture's fault.
Yes, of course . . . because it's your mom and dad's fault. And you're of course characteristically a positive, open minded guy . . .
It wouldn't matter if you were white, blue, or gay. It doesn't matter if they're white, Indian, or desperate. Level headed girls will reject you because you're a twit.

^ words of wisdom

right when I try to apologize to him the sucker goes for a stab in the back, classy

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Fucken hell, just listen to him. He's one of the wisest on this forum. Just listen to him, stop taking offense to his criticism.

he is certainly not the wisest, don't be a sucker for labels

pointless why I am even replying to your posts though

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here dude:


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You clearly have a ton of issues...

Personally, I think you have two options:

1- Go see a therapist

2- Quit Pick up... You're doomed, you Indian. You will never ever be able to pick up a single girl... Why? Because you're Indian! Indian girl will dislike you, so do all the others.

I'm telling you, there's nothing you can do about it... You're doomed. Just save the time and energy and stop trying to pick up. Study hard, get a good job, and find a hot gold digger that you will marry and who will probably end up killing you to get all your money... Why? Because of you're culture.


That being said, you should read your post from the start and realize that you're just finding bullshit excuses to not make any effort... You think Indian guys cannot pick up girls? Go talk to Don Draper, he's Indian and he doesn't have any problem picking up girls...

Oh, by the way....
Kasabi IS the smartest guy on this forum.

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Just to let you know that while you guys were arguing about the glass of water...... I drank it!

Sincerely, the Opportunist

Kasabi spent a lot of time making his rely to you. And he proved a point. Your a judging him because he is slamming you and you don't like it. But it doesn't make him wrong. He didn't stab you in the back. You are here for help and he is laying it out in a straight line.

It's up to you to overcome your own insecurities and hear what he is saying, because honestly I completely agree with him. You are using your indian heritage and skin color as an excuse for the reasons why you can't pick up chicks. But in reality it's just who you are and you are too ashamed to face that fact.

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lol eminem avatar!

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firgured i should post this here too. it's a link to a blog about this.

i was sick of my asian and south asian/indian friends complaining about this shit so i started talking photos of every asian/south asian dude with a white girl and interviewing some of them.

the one thing they ALL have in common? they don't think that it's weird that they have a white girlfriend. they're like 'what? people worry about that!? wtf?! what difference does my race make?'

(http://www.asianswithwhitechicks.com)

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OP, I am Indian and I have only ever dated and slept with white girls. No girl has ever been even the slightest bit off-put by my heritage. In fact, lots of hippie girls who are very into Eastern culture have found it extremely sexy. Hell, I have an opener I do in which I open girls with a humorously thick north Indian accent (think Russel Peters), acting like an AFC. After a few seconds I drop the accent and ask if they thought I was really from India, and then I make little marks on a napkin and tell them that I've got a bet with a friend that I can convince X number of people that I'm really from India. I then proceed to bust them for falling for it or ask for feedback about how to improve it. I take the sterotype of the "goofy" Indian and make it a ridiculous notion, while simultaneously negging the girls, who initially think I am hitting on them and then realize that I'm just having fun. Girls love it when I cuss or act like a horndog with that accent because the preconception about Indians is that they are never so uninhibited. I tell DHV stories about going to India, my experiences there, the culture/theology/etc.

I am friends with two other Indian guys, and they both date white girls. None of us even consider dating an Indian girl because we all have sisters and Indian girls remind us of our sisters too much.

It's all in your head, OP. White girls don't care if a guy is Indian the way we care if a girl is Indian. If genetic diversity promotes the propagation of a species, doesn't it make sense that white girls would be -more- attracted to guys with genes on the other side of the globe?

I'm a British Indian, and my girlfriend is a White Spanish girl. The problem with Indians is that they believe their own bullshit.

Like the above poster, I've only ever been with White girls, and I have never been with an Indian or Asian girl. Hell, I refrain from them like the fucking plague, for reasons I'd rather not delve into. Stop believing your own bullshit. I'm an Indian, by the way, an Indian, a god-damn Indian, with a hot Spanish girl who receives 2343300 looks from men whenever we're walking down the street. Hell, I've already had to fight off 4 different guys trying to day game her, and we barely spend enough time together, and have only been together for a month. Did I mention that I'm an Indian? I don't know how it is in the States, but Pakistani, Indian and Bangladeshi guys in the UK are incredibly successful with White girls. Hell, the large majority tend to prefer White girls over their own, and White girls tend to have a liking for the brown brothers. Stop believing your own bullshit.