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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 9:52 pm 
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Ok so i met this HB9 about a month ago at a party, got her on facebook which lead to me getting her digits.

We chatted a bunch over text and eventually met up with her at an outdoor festival where i knew tons of people: giving me loads of social proof, i naturally introduced her to tons of people and spent a fair amount of time with her that day building some comfort.

Over the next couple weeks we texted a fair amount and then when she had a small window of time (due to college exams) we planned to meet up for a drink in which she flaked last minute.. The next 2 days she initiated a few conversations and invited me out with her and her friends in which i declined as i was busy and also not interested in hanging out with her and her friends before i had have even K closed.

2 days later we hangout for a quick coffee which she initiated too and i k close as i leave.
2 days later she joins me and we go together to another outdoor festival, again its clear that i know many people and have a fair amount of girls interested. Eventually we walk off away from the crowds and go swimming in a river where we make out for an hour before returning to the party.

We then end up separated for a while and the next time I see her (hour later or so) she is making out with a different guy...
She tried to make out with me again a few times but i wasnt particularly interested by this stage and acted as if i forgot about her and had a great time with my friends for the remainder of the party. ( i also fought off the urge to go k close any of the other girls that i knew wanted to fuck me that i wasnt interested in just for the sake of getting back at her)
( i was never rude to her or acted affected) (she is definitely aware that i was aware she was with some other guy for the remainder of the festival)

after the festival I find out that at some stage during the festival she had spoken to a friend of mine and said that she likes me but isnt sure what to do cause she has been seeing this other guy for the past few weeks and that he was there.

My ego makes me want to say " fuck this bitch" and move on but then i question that reaction as im still interested in the girl.
On the one side we are both single and seeing multiple people.

My question is what is the more alpha male way to deal with this situation:
1. act is if it doesn't bother me whatsoever and pretend nothing happened and proceed to see her again ( she has tried to initiate conversations a couple times since but i havent been particularly responsive)
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2. Confront her and what she did and indicate that i think it was a bit of a slap in the face.. after which she will apologise.. and then accept and carry on..

basically both responses could seem AFC too me: 1. I could be perceived as a pushover and 2. I could be perceived as if i care too much..

( i do realise this girl is probably not dating quality but i do want to hangout with her and f-close)

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:04 am 
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Tell her you understand she is seeing other people, and you are too. Tell her that you aren't offended after all you have only been seeing each other a few weeks and that while you can understand someone being upset and hurt that you feel like a hypocrite as you are also not exclusive. Let her know that you would like to continue seeing each other to see how things go and if things work out they were meant to be but if not, you enjoy knowing her and you can keep things friendly. Using the emotional blackmail card isn't an impressive thought, just play the bigger person and you will look good.

This will do a few things, it keeps your value because you let her know that you like her but that she isn't your be all, she isn't the only girl on your list. You also play a high confidence card. You show that you are the bigger person. You show a lot with just a few statements. Just my 2 cents.

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interesting stuff, keep us updated dude


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poeticlyskuac..
I have had a few mixed forms of advice from some of my friends, and some of theirs correlates with yours..

I agree with mentioning to her that we are both single and that this is OK that we are seeing other people.
I agree with mentioning to her in some form that i like her

and i understand that my humbled relaxed attitude comes off confident but where am i confronting her disrespectful move ?
But i feel i need to mention somewhere that it annoyed me somewhat and is insulting to kiss some one else in front of the other person???

Thanks for Advice!
guys.. Please keep it coming :)


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I have had a few mixed forms of advice from some of my friends, and some of theirs correlates with yours..

I agree with mentioning to her that we are both single and that this is OK that we are seeing other people.
I agree with mentioning to her in some form that i like her

and i understand that my humbled relaxed attitude comes off confident but where am i confronting her disrespectful move ?
But i feel i need to mention somewhere that it annoyed me somewhat and is insulting to kiss some one else in front of the other person???

Thanks for Advice!
guys.. Please keep it coming :)

You kind of are confronting you just are showing her you don't lose your cool easily. If you want to tell her you were uncomfortable with her actions be careful how you confront the situation. Remember you don't own her, you never clearly defined that you were going as a couple, and in reality you don't have the right to be jealous. You are seeing other girls, the only part that kind of sucks is she messed around with the other guy she is dating in front of you. However you had the same right to do so and didn't.

If you want to say that was a douche move go ahead but you won't be starting a relationship on a good note. This is a situation that can blow up in your face easily. I hope you find the right way, good luck.

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poeticlyskuac..


I dont see any easy way to get this into a conversation:
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Tell her you understand she is seeing other people, and you are too. Tell her that you aren't offended after all you have only been seeing each other a few weeks and that while you can understand someone being upset and hurt that you feel like a hypocrite as you are also not exclusive.

I agree with the fact that telling her " we are both seeing other people" is good but i dont understand how to approach it.


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You kind of are confronting you just are showing her you don't lose your cool easily. If you want to tell her you were uncomfortable with her actions be careful how you confront the situation. Remember you don't own her, you never clearly defined that you were going as a couple, and in reality you don't have the right to be jealous. You are seeing other girls, the only part that kind of sucks is she messed around with the other guy she is dating in front of you. However you had the same right to do so and didn't.
Again.. i dont see any way to communicate this to her in a realistic conversation without it seeming like i got no conclusion to my statement.

I think you have helped me realise i am being jealous, and approaching the topic might seem controlling.

I think i should just act as if nothing has happened and carry on gaming/seeing her as normal.

THing is I DONT want her to do it again and I am trying to find a way to make it clear that i dont think its ok.

Thanks Again. More Advice would be appreciated guys.


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There is no way this conversation could go easily. If you want an easy conversation your crazy, your dealing with jealousy, jealousy has killed thousands of men, caused wars. There is no easy way.

I really hope it goes easily but I find it impossible to be an easy conversation. If you want an easy way out you won't get anything but a pool of emotions. Emotions flow like water and the easiest way tends to create a lake of emotions that will one day overflow and flood in areas you don't want to. Avoiding it is just as bad as confronting it, because if you truly like this girl and you hold it against her in the long run it will just create a very bad beginning of a relationship. If you just want to do a hit and run, by all means follow through, but if you truly like the girl and would like to approach this like a relationship you will have to bring up these things and FORGIVE her.

Again Good Luck!

Someone else please give him some advice, I can't be giving the best advice. Someone's got to have other ideas.

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ok dude u did alot of things right but heres my perspective..when u saw the hb hookin up with other dudes you shouldve immediately realized what type of girl she is(the party just wana have fun type) this is good in your case because you realize that she's not your quality girl and you should carry on and set the right frame for the night..the alpha way is being unaffected by situations around you and using them to your advantage..insted of being walkin away from the situation you should have been hookin up with other girls which would have made her jealous and similarly built more attraction for you(they always want what is sought after). After that is done just be cocky funny and really carefree about the situation, start dancing with girls around her etc..wait for her to kiss you, build up that sexual tension by means of kino tests and almost kisses. this will help draw her back to you and shes yours. As for carrying on thats up to how much you like her and by being miffed about her with other guys u created a drama frame so like i said earlier continue kinda laid back and carefree. Remember your the man. anyway hope that helps bro -the voice

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 9:26 pm 
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thanks for your input thevoice123

At the time i fealt i was doing the right thing by acting as if it didn't bother me at all . But for some reason i thought kissing other girls in front of her would be juvenile or letting my ego get the better of me.

If i encounter a situation like this again though ill be sure to go mental on other girls in front of the target HB :)
I have spoken to her twice this week and have acted as if normal, and all is good. I will prob hang out with her again soon and will prob be at a party together soon.
( its great as i know that at the next outdoor festival/party that we are Both at, i have enough hb's around that i know want to fuck me)

i like the way you use the term "frame" and show how there are different frames for different scenarios and different ways to react to those different frames.. IE: dating frame and party frame

thanks again guys for the advice, the more the better!


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Ok just an update and question on this girl which the thread is about,

over the past month we have hungout once and seen each other at 4 parties and kissed at a couple of them. I havent been initiating conversation over text.

I have seen her with other guys a couple times but dont think she has seen me with any girls over the past month.

So a couple nights ago we ended up at the same club and id thought i would show her that i have other girls..

I ended up giving her almost no attention and k-closing 5 girls at the club. My mate said she was standing half the night staring at me with her jaw to the floor whilst i was kissing other girls.

After the club a whole bunch of people ended up at a house party in which i rocked up with a friend of mine (who i had k-closed that night ( we arent really into each other so was just for fun)). I ended up finding the HB in question super unhappy and paranoid at the party and not having a good time so i offered to drive her car back home.. She ended up at my place WITH my other friend that i had K-closed!!! (about 6 am)

By 2pm the next day both still hadn't left my place.. eventually my friend that i k-closed leaves and i hang out with the hb for an hour or so, eventually i go to kiss her and she tells me " NO i just want to be Friends"..
I never get affected by girls blocking me, dont take this to seriously and laugh it off and try one more time over the next hour and then I tried to kiss her once again when walking her to her car- she tells me " just friends" again..

I have decided i am done with wasting energy on this hb anyway as she is seeming far too difficult to f-close. but am interested in what i can Learn from this situation as a whole.. ( i cant quiet figure out the reason she would say just friends either, i dont see how she could snap lose attraction for me)


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