I like to tell girls I know magic. This line is money. It gets the attention. My only followup is the guessing of the number routine or sometimes I get a good read on women and I ask them to tell me two truths and a lie, and then I guess they lie. Anyone got some followup for this line that I love to use??

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No offence but its kinda lame to tell girls you love magic and only have two tricks. Magic is fun and cool and if you like it buy a book on bar magic and get 20-30 tricks on lock down

Well thanks for telling me what I know. I was avoiding buying a book. I mean recently this forum has been my thing. I was just looking for some thing you or someone else may know. So I could expand my options. If I must buy a book, sigh...

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Well either buy a book, or how about not caring about the magic BS whatsoever? If you really like to BS girls however there's this full thread of routines with a decent amount of "magic tricks".

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Ok I will check that thread out. About being myself, if you want to get into it. I was in the army for a wile. So I always have to put forth that effort to express myself it dose not come natural. And I don't have this cool thing like I can play the guitar or am some awesome guy are karokie or something. I have some personality. But the tricks mixed into the routine works. Why dump the tricks. Silly Rabbit.

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Why dump the tricks? Because this shit is not(or should be not) all about chicks. It should be a personality improvement. And if you go with tricks, it will hold you back. I know it from first hand experience. Believe me! I started with Mystery Method just like almost everyone else here, but it didn't take me too long to figure out that "Fuck this BS, I'm doing way better on my own without this "Pick a number between 1-10" crap"

Do you think I was the cool guy? Do you really think? I shit myself at the age of 11. Twice. The whole class was making fun of me for 8 years; I was a virgin until the age of 18 and never even had anything close to a girlfriend before that. I was seriously addicted to World of Warcraft and had a bath like once-twice a week.

I was the ultimate chump, until I had enough. I found Mystery's Method and started internalizing its theory. I would never say it didn't help at all, but the whole stuff is self-contradictary. There's lot of shit like "Why would a HB 10 talk to you? you have to neg her and DHV and bla bla bla"

BS. Just because she's an HB 10, she is not of greater value than any other human being. This whole messing around is so unnecessary it's unbelievable and I was simply astonished when I found it out.

My friend, I do not want to write any more on this, but I suggest you read Vin Dicarlo's Attraction Code, and David Deangelo's Double Your Dating. These two books will give you a wider scale of what I'm talking about. And during that, go out on the field. Go out and concentrate on observing while you're in social interactions. Observe how attraction REALLY works. It's not your magic tricks....It's YOU.

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Hey Fisher thanks for that input.

I feel like I do dive into the bag of tricks. I see what your saying though.

Perhaps it is best just to speak your mind without worry or thought of consequence.

I have watched that DeAnglo seminar. I have some idea of the thoughts your trying to get across to me.

One thing that is true, that I am sure of; there is a big difference between day game and night game. It seems like your perspective is of a higher value. I appreciate that.

In other words; your speaking from a much more natural standpoint. But what about this perspective.

I think, a women or many women respect the fact that you are willing to play a game with them rather then not approach. That is the point I am at now.

(Once I get past a opener and get a number or establish some report with a women who is a 7 or 8 highest. I can be myself.)

I feel like I still have a long way to go bro, but I know what your saying. I feel like i am on the right path. Thank you for the help.

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Oh sure. I didn't want to say to never ever use any of those techniques. It's always fun to throw in some cold reading or whatever, just don't rely on them.

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There is a ton of killer magic routines in "Magic for Dummies"

its like 10 bucks at Barnes and Noble. Go grab it!