Hey guys. Just looking for your take on the line between showing interest and coming off as needy or eager. My biggest problem is that I usually can't get this right. Sometimes I come off as too needy and sometimes a girl will like me, but then lose interest because I'm playing the whole "I don't really need you" role. It's hard for me to distinguish when to give a girl a compliment (for fear of giving her too much power) and when to neg her. Contrary to what I've heard, negs don't seem to work as well as I thought they would with girls who have massive egos and think their shit doesn't stink. So how do I show interest without giving up all the power to her and in turn, make her just as interested? And if a girl is an attention whore, how do I compete with 1000 afc facebook friends and guys that she knows, who are willing to give her all the attention she needs to fuel that ego.

by being the exact opposite and acting completely unimpressed with her "status". having the braveness to isolate and escalate. basically anhilating her bitch shield?

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what dr. house brings to medicine, i bring to everyday life (an extreme dose of cynicism), don't listen to the curmudgeon!

Mystery (the PUA) in my opinion screwed guys up with the whole concept of Negging. He taught that by being a bit "playful" yet "offensive" guys would have a chance destroying the bitch shields of beautiful women.

The problem is that due to inexperience, guys take it too far, and end up killing their chances.

I think the whole crap about negging is not necessary. If you want to make someone feel a bit more comfortable around you, consider teasing her a bit.

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agreed^
Compliments? why i never give a girl any, it wouldn't hurt to give one or two probly but I'm really bad at making ones that don't give her all the power.
Neg-ging? I spent about 4 girls and 10 months getting it to the point where I knew when to use one, nvm how long it took to say it right... if you don't know the girl well I suggest you don't neg, at all really; if you know her well and she fits in a very small group of requirements you can neg, once max, but it's such a small group its not necessary to learn (I've been doin PUA for a little under a year, and this whole time I've met ONE girl where ONE neg was good) I also spent about 90% of that year hardcore PUA learning so I picked up on stuff quicker than most. So for anyone that is still new or barly into it I suggest not neg'ing girls basically at all

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