I am new to all of this, I have read "the game" (like everyone else), a fuckton of ebooks, and eye banged a bunch of videos for the past month or so. I've especially gotten attached to cockycomedy, and its gotten me a number close that I have a second day with a HB9 and an HB8

My biggest flaw is approach anxiety, and how I got both these numbers is they were girls at concerts of mine. One approached me, and the other found me on facebook. I had an awesome set with the one that approached me in person.

The one that found me on facebook is what i'd like for you guys to critique. I dont feel like I did terrible, but I could have done better. So point out ANY flaw you see, i'm extremely open minded, especially when it comes to PUA.


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HERES THE LOW DOWN ERRYBODY!!:
HB8: So, i'm gonna throw myself out there and possibly look like a creep ass, but i can't help myself. lmfao. If you guys end up coming back to rapid, or if you just wanna txt or something my # is 1-800-BIG-TITS. Straight creeper status.. I know. lol

Taylor: yea your way creepy. stalkin me down on facebook and then just demanding me to text your number, but despite all that i'll still text you . and yea, we'll come back, its fun playing shows there.

HB8: Well, must I make a point to tell you I don't usually do this? lol.
You just really caught my eye and I had to find some way to talk more to you. So, I decided to go creepy route. bahaha.

Taylor: sure you dont haha. oh starting off by hitting on me too!? yea your crazy creepy. i'll text you right now so you can have my number and text me 20 times a day like a true stalker .

HB: Gahh, your making this situation so awkward for me. lmfao. I sure hope your being sarcastic. hahahahaha and okay, sounds good. i'll be waiting by my phone like a creep!

Texted her after about 15 minutes.
Taylor: Hey stalker, whats a good nickname for you in my phone?

HB: Ummm, well its a bit difficult because we have the same name awkwardly. Lol.

(her name is tayler, yea with "er". THE FUCK!?)

Taylor: Pfff, i'm sure you can come up with something better than that for an answer! Your style shows your atleast a little bit creative.

HB: Hmmm, I'm blank. Honestly. Lmfao my close friends call me TalylorGang. Like the rapper wiz khalifa. Lol but, I'm not quite sure that nickname would fit coming from you. Lol plus nicknames should be given, not claimed myself.

Taylor: We have something in common, high five. My friends call me that too! okay I will call you "taylor with an e".

HB: Thats a super long nickname but it'll do until we coe up with something better. I mean you do sorta have to get to kinda know a person to hand out a nickname.

Taylor: Well of course, I just wanted something for in my phone thats better than "tayler the creepy stalker"

HB: Ahahah okay well if you truly believe I'm a stalker I will leave you alone! lol like I said, I liked what I saw, and I just wanted to get to know you, creeper style. Is that so bad now?

Taylor: Haha no I dont think your a true stalker, you would probably find me in person if that were the case :O. At least your direct about it, nope its not bad at all. Anyway I'mma take a shower, text me sometime tomorrow, taylorgang4lyf!
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She didnt reply after that, but i took awhile to reply especially towards the end so she probably fell asleep.

Anyway critique away!

You hang on to that stalker frame for too long and she had enough of it I think. It was a very good idea to begin with, but then you should've switched frames and started to arrange some kind of date. The bitch was all over you! She already invested a lot by contacting you, you can't expect her to then take all this humiliation.

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You are correct I did, any idea on how I would have transitioned into a different frame? I wouldnt go for a date, she lives in a different state, but i'd probably get some good ol' nudies out of her, and f close her when we play in her city again.

Well, to tell you the truth, I don't have any idea how you would get some nudies out of a chick online. I don't do that shit. I just use online stuff to hook up with the HB. But for the transition thing...

You could have mentioned at some point where your next concert is gonna be and whether she could come. Like when she wrote "I've been waiting by my phone like a creep" It doesn't matter if she says yes or no. But from then on, you can tell her stories about your concerts. Interesting and fun things that happened

She might also tell you some good ones. And of course always pick on those. You don't want to have just a chit-chat but you want to stay flirty Good luck! This one is still not completely lost however if you ask me. Just try to be a little more kind next time if it's possible, and in the meantime you can game other chicks too

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This one isn't lost at all. She's gaming YOU, not the other way around. All you need to do, is listen and respond. Simple as that. And of course drop the humiliation thing, it's fun if joked about, but if she's not sure if you're joking - you obviously took it too far.

Write her a message, and correct your work.

first of all every guy in here wants to kill you because being in some band and concerts is going to pre-qualify you to these hot chicks so you are already in a previliged position and this chicks seems like a groupie.

You also mentioned you read a bunch of books and study cocky comedy. Ive read more and studied more then you, and all I see here is MM stuff, too much bro. You may want to utilize some other tools as needed.

Which brings me to the final point. Yes you held onto the stalker frame too long but mainly your suffering from over gamming her. Shes already qualified, DHV'ed, and attracted you need to facilitate a meet up not run a bunch of routines, scripts, and bits on her (at least until you see her in person then re-game as needed). The only thing that's going to mess up meeting up with this chick is if you continue to overgame her rather then act busy but normal. Keep the texting to a minimum in this case, it isn't helping your case.

If you want nude pix thats cool, girls love to send sexy pics an im sure she would send you some just ask for some "sexy pics" to introduce the frame. If your traveling and texting an out of state chick I suggest you read Bradfords texting guide, he covers this area extensively.

Thanks detox, I defiantly will look into that book. Never read up on MM but i've watched "the pick up artist" and I dont see how I did MM at all. There was no scripts or routines involved. No ESP or anything. Could you elaborate on what I did related to MM and not CC? In all honesty, mystery is kind of a tool who looks like kid rock mixed with a wizard, but he has excellent night game. I however, live in wyoming. Theres no clubs here, or even much of a music scene here for that matter. So very very little night game.

I dont text girls very often, this was the first conversation I ever had with this girl. She texted me the next day and we flirted for about 3 messages, then I stopped texting her. I have this other chick blowing up my phone everyday and letting me know that she's getting irritated when I dont text back. I LOVE THIS FUCKING GAME!

Your right though, I over gamed her. I'm still a noob too all of this, but I'm eager to get ridiculously good at all of this.

Oh and thanks Fisher and GAPP, this community rocks.

The nickname thing, the stalker thing, and the creepy thing are what im refereeing to. Now the last two may be more Swinggcatt then MM, I dunno, it all gets confused in a jumbled mess for me as so many guys overuse this stuff. Its just that you hit her up with a bunch of shit ive seen before in a short time, but hey if she doesn't get this same shit from 8 other guys a week then well played.

Anyway seems like your doing great, if you travel a lot and like the text game then that Bradford stuff will be a good read. And funny about the mystery thing, and if you look at a lot of these super successful PUA guys very few of them are inherently good looking, but they seem good looking to girls because they are so good at the game. Keep up the band music thing, its really going to help you. I used to DJ and I gave it up which was dumb, it was great for girls.

Ah, that is true. I did get the nickname thing from mystery. The stalker thing was just there for the taking though.

Seriously, thanks for all the advice, every little bit helps. Do you really think that many guys run this stuff? I mean I dont know anybody who does this. I've told my friends about it and they've never heard of it. i'm 19 and in college so maybe its just my age group?

P.S. Just F closed the HB9 tonight on the first day 2 i've had while running pua. CHYEA!

you ask a good question because , like msot regulars on here, I live and breath this stuff so I always lol when I see the basic, hackneyed, PUA stuff chained together. However like you say, an amazing amount of people outside our world havnt seen any of this stuff. I have a few old girlfriends who let me read their texts and online dating shit from random guys and I usually see some of the common game stuff but it generally isn't chained together-Just bits and pieces here and there.

Good job on the HB9, I haven't had one of those in a minute, and when I say a minute i mean too long.