Ive sarged a total of two times and have had moderate success. Tell me what you think of the last one. My responses to your advice will be much shorter. I was at an 80's dance party and i went up to my roomate (whose gay which causes girls to flock to him) who was standing in a three set. making it a four set. i knew one of the girls (Brun7) and there was a Brun6 and a Brun9.

i said "hey Brun7 whats up"

and she introduced me to her friends. i began talking to the Brun6 (ignoring the brun9, who seemed like she only knew those people. And my roomate also said she was checking me out hardcore).

Securicor "you go to ___school, what are you doing here____"
brun 6 "blah blah"
Sec "well you look like you fit in anyways"

more or less that kind of stuff

afterwards i left the group, took roughly 30 seconds. my target is the brun 9. i opened two more sets, for practice only. Isolated a blond 6 and brun 6. used Styles five question game and a number trick a friend taught me. Then i reapproached the original brun6 for more small talk around the brun9, they seemed pleased, made them laugh, and then i abruptly left again. Oh and i used an NLP trick, where whenever i said :HOT: i subtly touched my chest and quickly looked at the brun9. its an anchor, supposed to be subliminal, makes her associate me with the word. anyways i later approached the 9, we danced, and made small talk all the way off the dancefloor (1 minute), where i negged her when we stopped dancing.

Brun 9 "Oh no, your a redsoxfan aren't you"
Sec "yeah, we would never work out"
Brun 9 "blah blah useless drivel blah something about tatoos"
Sec "OH! do you have any tatoos"
Brun 9 "yeah i have four"
Sec "lets go into the light so i can see them"

Isolate her around 40 feet from party

Brun 9 "blah rabble blah cliche tatoo on my ankle"
Sec "yeah thats pretty cliche"
Brun 9 :wanting to impress: "heres my third. :shows me: heres one on my back :shows me and its a totally awesome cartoon drawing of a scene from disney's alice in wonderland. it was also wicked hot:
Sec "that ones awesome. Blah blah
Brun 9 "blah blah (but its an interesting conversation)"
Sec "hey i gotta go but we should continue this conversation"
Brun 9 :exited: "yeah"
Sec "so tell me how we're gonna do this?"
Brun 9 :not used to this: "Oh, uhhhhh can i have your email address"
Sec "ok do you have paper"
Brun 9 "huh i..."
Sec :grining: "why arent you prepared! :tear off a piece of poster, she thinks both of these things are funny:. you know its kind of weird you want my email address, thats like how professors i dont want to talk to contact me."
Brun 9 :confused but smiling: "uhh i dunno, maybe i could. um. uh.. your number"
Sec :more humor: "Well ok, hey wait. why did you hesitate to ask me? now your gonna have to give me a good reason to give you my number!"
Brun 9 :smiling but way off guard: "well i dont know. um i mean can i get your email adress? :confused/amused look:
Sec: :light smile, kind of soft voice: "you could just ask"
Brun 9 :with a very slightly higher voice: "can i have your number?"

then i wrote it down said good by and my friends and i went home.

I know it sucks that i didnt get her number. i wanted to, but i think i did the best i could. Im up for criticism. it wont make me feel bad. but do you think she will call? what should i do if i run into her again? my college is wicked small.

Well for future use, this is how i would dealwith the number exchange.

HB: "Can i have your number."

YOU: "idk, you could be a stalker or something. (hand her paper and pen) Ill take yours though, maybe ill even call you." (you seem to have a good C & F personality going so continue it here)

If she comes back to you with "well you might be a stalker too." or anything like that neg her on it for copying from you or just respond C & F like "Yep, you caught me, huge stalker here." or "Damn now im busted, howd ya know?"

If you handed her the paper and pen then she will probably just give you her number and not keep going.

In anycase i htink you did a great job of deflecting it from email to numbers. Also dont worry if she calls you or not you did an excellent job imo. If she doesnt call thats her lose. If she does get ready for round 2 :p

Hope this helps.

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-Ka-
"Be the same, only better."

When you give a fem your number, you are giving them all the control you worked for. With your number they are in control of the next interaction. What Ka said about handing her the paper can work. Only thing is, don't ask for a number. Imply with your words that she should give it to you. I have been in situations similar to yours. To get a number close, try using something like " since you're enjoying my company, give me your number". It's finishing strong, you show her that you are confident. 80% just give you the number. About 15% are hesistant. With them ask for the email, while they are writing it, tell them to put the number down also. Because they are already writing it makes sense to them to add the number. If they are still resistant you will have to neg, gesture towards the fem saying " there's no telling what fun you'll miss out on" then quarter turn to walk away. Sometimes you'll be grabbed. If not then, the target is baffled, may try to chase you down after brainfreeze fades away. Attempt to be willing to lose them, the bigger the risk, the bigger the reward.

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"Don't hate the playa, learn the game"

Desmaro.

I found it intresting that you said not to ask for the number, but to imply for her to give it to you in one sentance, and then 2 sentances later say that he should be direct and ask for it.

Also telling her she enjoys your company is gonna generate the same response as asking her if she likes you...even if she does she will probably say she is not or react negativly to it.

Your rendition of how you would handle it is no different then you walking upto her and going, "Do you like me? Your really hot." it will generate the same defenses. It is extremely Cocky and has no humor in it.

I do agree with Desmaro abou having gave her control(in terms of her having your number) after you work so hard to be in control, however in my opinion if you follow his adice, especially the part about pretending to walk away, you might as well start out asking her for her number and skip the effort/time you put in.

My method may not grant you her number, but it will not blow your chances at any contact inof being exchanged.

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-Ka-
"Be the same, only better."

Hmmm. I would say "since you're enjoying my company, you should give me your number so we can get together again." Then hand her the paper.

As far as walking away, you SHOULD be willing to walk away from ANY girl. If she IS interested, she WILL pull you back. If not, you're wasting your time anyway. Sometimes a girl is really confused and therefore is not genuinely interested anyway because she's starting to think you're weird.

And, remember, in being willing to walk away from ANY girl, you can start filtering out the girls that just aren't worth your time or trouble.

thanks guys. thats gonna help me out a lot. i did get her number but i was lucky for that one. anyways i have a date with a brun10 so im gonna give you guys a field report, and use some of the same stuff you said. also i might try to seduce the brun9 some more. Thanks! this shit works so well, its like everything in my life switched around completely!