Due to the fact that a couple of my other "relationships" are fizzling out, I decided to activate a neighbor of mine that has always dug me. She's a really sweet girl, we've always had good conversations, and I've always made it a point to flirt with her. So over the past couple of weeks, I've spur of the moment called her to hang out, and (surprise surprise) she's always been available. So earlier this week she e-mailed me saying we should hang out this weekend, which was such an obvious IOI that I knew I'd be hooking up with her. I had a fun day playing pickup football with my buddies, and I was dog-tired afterwards. In fact, I really didn't want to go out on this dinner date. But I did anyways, and though my game was not as tight as it could have been, at this point the HB was so primed it didn't matter. Since she lives next to me, it was easy to get her back to my place for a glass of wine. I cubed her, waited for a moment of silence, then started making out with her. She was getting very into it, and since I have roomates I had to try to get her up to my room so that we wouldn't be barged in on. I told her, "I'm not trying to rush things, but I have roomates that could walk in at any moment so maybe we should go upstairs." I knew this was a risky move since she's such a sweet girl, so when she said, "I don't know..." and got all silent as she thought about it, I thought I had lost her. But, she perked up and said, "Ok, just for a little while."

We went upstairs, and, not to go into any details, did everything but fuck. I honestly didn't want to F-close her yet as that would be pushing boundaries on her, but I'm fairly confident we'll be having sex soon. This leaves me with a few points of contention to ponder, and any advice anyone could give (no newbies please, established PUAs only) would be much appreciated:

1) Is there a better way to transition from the couch to the bed? I know Style's method of having something "cool to show them" in your room, but that wouldn't have worked in this situation.

2) How can I keep this casual? She's the type of girl that may get really into this, and I don't want to date her exclusively. To make matters worse, she lives next to me, so it would be difficult to bring girls home while "dating" her.

3) Should I feel guilty? She may be looking for something that I can't give her, and for that reason it may end badly. I really hope it doesn't, and I'd like to leave her better than I found her.

This last point really bugs me. Ever since I've modified my natural game to become a PUA, I've been really afraid of hurting these girls I've been with since, for the first time in my life, I'm not seeking a relationship since the next HB is probably right around the corner (I've had a good past few months). So far I've been good about not hurting these girls, but that streak is bound to end. We have all this info about how to pick girls up, but we don't have much advice about setting them down gently. So I guess as my PU skills improve, I want my SD (set-down) skills to improve also. I want to be a SDA. Any advice?

i dont know if i can help but i will offer you my two cents to take or leave


it is kinda of a sticky situation in that she lives next to you, ask yourself this "Is this a hit it and quit it? or Do I want to maintain a sexual relationship"

either of those questions will lead to the next which is:
"is it worth it?"

if yes then take things slow with her so you dont get buyers remorse, if you move too fast then you have nothing to look forward to, you should try and delay the satisfaction, have her begging for it.

to transition to your room i would do styles approach, i personally have a pet hamster, so i use the hamster as an excuse to go to my room. maybe you could get one, or low maintence pet like a fish or plant.

if you want to see other people at the same time you need to somehow figure out how to convey that you are in an open relationship, and the sooner you do this the better. how you would do this diplomatically is beyond me.

the only reason you would feel guilty would be becuase of dishonesty so if everything is clear then you will have nothing to feel bad about.

well thats my two cents, good luck

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I understand where ur thoughts on this make it seem akward. You are already making out with her and she is "getting very into it"- why would u say - "hey come check out my hampster" - i feel as though this is lame and not alpha

no offense skittlepimp

BUT the hampster line - or anything else u want to show her in ur room line- CAN be effective to transistion to the bedroom when
A) You have not yet made-out (at ur apt.) and u are giving her a tour of ur place - a great one is to show her something on the internet so she has to sit on ur lap, which can easily transition to a make-out
or
B) You have already made-out and there has been a significant time lapse between then and the present.
But like i said to stop making out to say - come see my hampster is just lame and weird - and she'll notice this

So instead of this you said: Now that I'm typing this I actually just posted a similar reply recently... but i didnt feel like going through pages of newbie questions to look for it
But, basically i feel as though not saying anything is the key. I prefer (and have had better results) when i lead physically through body language, and not by speaking.

A girl is more likely to LMR if you are speaking with her.

Just consider how it goes down - When you ask a question... she will think and give a response. Giving her more time to think the following: omg im a slut or ill be a slut - or what will ___ think etc etc etc etc.

You may have actually almost lost her to LMR with that comment actually - that's what that pause was = her weighing her options: "Do I want to escalate further sexually and risk being a slut? OR do I want to stop now and risk losing this guy and therefore not enjoying myself?"

So after my drawn-out set-up and explanation
Here is what I would do/have done in this situation

Sit up while pulling away from her and put out your hand. If she takes it in her's - then I LEAD her into the bedroom (sometimes filling the walk with a quick kiss here or there)
THEN IF she asks where ur going then u can tell her: it's more comfortable, my roommates are coming home, etc.

With girls that I am not worried about future akwardness and appear to be more risque/slutty/experienced. I will cold-stop in the middle of a hot&heavy make-out, stand up, give her my cocky-funny smile (that she's already VERY used to at this point), and give her the come-hither motion with my finger and lead her into the bedroom - get on the bed and make her get on top of me. They giggle and enjoy it. And they will usually comment about it next-day or after.... THEY LOVE IT when a man takes charge.
Also, the fact that you are being cocky/funny WHILE hooking up will result in less LMR throughout the session - as it will make her feel more relaxed and comfortable than just being all serious and huffing and puffing in her ear.
If you truly want to do this without hurting her it will difficult, but not impossible. First of all, you need to be honest from the get-go. At least thats how i feel. And, if you dont want to bring it up -girls will usually strike up the "what are we" convo soon after sex or before if they are looking for an exclusive LTR.

And i am completely honest during this convo and stick to 3 main points:
a) I like hanging out with you. We have fun together obviously
b)I'm just really busy and still trying to figure my shit out so dont want to upset you or hurt u in any way.
c)I can't have a serious boyfriend/girlfriend relationsihp right now because I dont want to end up feeling obligated to spend time with someone or talk on the phone forever etc etc. I say if we want to hang out lets hang out. If you want to hang out with some one else thats ok too.
Personally, if you cheat on her when she thinks ur being exclusive, u should feel guilty - but thats just me maybe.
If you're honest - it can work out great.
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wow that was a long post - my bad

Cheers

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Awesome info Ace! Probably the some of the best I've ever heard on here!

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