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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 4:15 pm 
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ME: oi! you know its dangerous to poke strangers! i guess your parents never taught you that!


HB9: You started it :P

ME: you looked very pokable! but do you always poke random people back!?

HB9: Your not really a random person, I know of you :) x

ME: heard of me! nothing bad i hope :P xx

HB9: No I just have you on Facebook so guess I know you? you went to long :) c

ME: sorry love never seen you around... guess i try to avoid girls like you? ;) cc

HB9: Girls like me? I don't like the sound of that
You dont recognise me at all? Awkward xx

ME: trouble, beautiful, way out of my league? ;)
nah im just kiding... think i met you once when i was with bekki? :) xx


HB9: Haha thanks and yeah probably! xx

ME: yeah probably? well if you dont remember i might as well be a complete stranger then haha :P xxx

HB9: Okay let's start this again, hi stranger! I'm HB9, please refrain from poking strangers :) xx

ME: okay! :D hi stranger! I'm callum, I like to live on the dangerous side! what you gonna do about it! :P xx

HB9: Touché Callum! Do it then... If you dare xx

ME: if i dare? an if i do?

HB9: You don't even want to know what will happen!! I do crazy shit when poked haha xx






then she returned my poke... now im stumped i need some expert help as i dont want to fuck this up!!!!

any ideas???


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:30 pm 
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Obviously there is some flirting going on here and she was trying to qualify herself by asking if you have recognized her from somewhere. But it seems like you are going over board abit with the negging, doing it too much would make her perceive as being an asshole.

i would move on to getting to know her, using push and pull technique and deep rapport.

here are some notes on attraction, building rapport, and number closing which might be of interest to you as well as some conversational techniques that i use all the time. enjoy.

one thing you should know is when to tease (push pull technique, negging etc). they should only be used if ur target is a 7.5 or above (or the girls who think they are 7.5 or above whereas in actual fact they are not). if you were to tease a girl below that rating, you would end of hurting and insulting them. in exclaimer for using negging and teasing is that one should positively validate their target before they negatively validate them. the reason to do it in this way is because one must hook their target in order to get their attention. so after the positive validation (for a set who is +7.5) you negatively validate them (tease, push) in order to put yourself at a higher level than them because at the beginning they are higher than you. the main reason why it is good to use negging is to challenge the ego of a girl of high calibre which is something that a typical afc does not do. and by doing this, it shows that u r a man that has high standards and does not go for just any girl and this will make the girl more interested and it will compel her to work harder to gain your approval because you have showed disinterest in her, told her that she does not fit your standards (negative validation). girls always want the guys that is surrounded by women and guys which are difficult to get, its a challenge for women to go after those guys.

building rapport is a very interesting process. in order to build a great emotional connection one must choose to talk about things which have deep emotional content. it does not matter what the girl does or likes, you can connect with her even if you have dissimilar interests. as you know all occupations and hobbies are completely different in their complexity, principles and structure, but there is one thing which all of them have in common/share "EMOTIONS". one must be empathetic and show a girl that u understand why she chose to do that job or hobbie by expressing the emotions that one feels when doing that activity, it shows that you're really trying to get to know her, and she will think "wow this is a great guy to talk to, he's making an effort to understand me, but wait, i dont know anything about him" and this will compel her to ask you questions and u can freely express yourself how ever much u want as long as u express urself passionately and positively. all the men dont do this at all and do not understand how much empathy is a powerful force and openly allow themselves to be perceived to see a girl superficially. you can use the concept of 'rapport' to ur advantage as well.

in order for you to build greater rapport with her, get used to asking more open-ended questions e.g. "what have you been up to?" or "What did u get up to today?", my one: "What monkey business did u get up to today?". dont use questions like "wats up hun?", thats a closed-ended question which the girl would simply answer and she wont give u much material to work on in order to reach the hook point.

and connect on her answers in a positive way. dont be afraid to tease her as well. dont be afraid to create impact. when telling a girl about a situation that happened to u on that day or in the week, give more details about it, women love details. it is also good to read the local news paper, women are usually very aware what happens in the world, u should as well. u can get her point of view on something in the news (nothing to do with which celebrity had sex with who) e.g. political, environmental, sociological etc and then she would ask you what u think and you can manipulate the conversation which can lead anywhere u want.

another way u can have an "endless conversation" is the principle of "Question, statement, Question, statement, Q, S, Q, S etc". so u ask an open question, receive the answer, and then make a statement about the last thing she said in order to ask a deeper question. this process can go round in a circle, it can go on for ages.

after you have the girl attracted to you and built rapport, here's how to make sure that you can get a definite number close and afterwards ensure a date in the future.

the way to ask a girl out is by 'offering' not asking permission, never ask "Do you want to go out tonight?" or "will you go out with me?" or "so what time are you free tomorrow?". They are all questions which AFCs do. they make a guy sound needy, desperate, dependent on doing something with her.

so before offering a date, let her know how busy and sociable you are. girls want guys who are difficult to get. usually in rapport with girls, to make sure she does not flake on u after the first meeting, there's a pua principle called 'seeding'. this is when u in plant an invitation in the conversation with her but u havent actually invited her. for example, you could say that "im thinking of going to this really cool bar sometime next week which i heard about". now usually when a guy mentions to a girl about going to a bar, club or party that u know, the girl will always expects the guy to automatically invite her. but what you would do is just to mention the party or the bar and continue on the conversation. this will catch the girl off guard and the girl will be thinking "hey, this guy is pretty cool (depending on the attraction and rapport), but he has just mentioned this party but why is he not asking me out?". she will think this and will be more compelled and desperate for you to ask her and she realises that she needs to work in order to get the invitation. women want to go to things that are hard to get into, exclusive and even more if they are told they cant go. people always want to go to things when they have been told they cant go. sounds so forbiden and interesting.

dont be in the position to be waiting for a girl to call you, women are lazy or busy but definitely unreliable. you make the contact. but when u contact, dont sound like you are too eager to see her, bad sign to show that ur desperate. in between texting a girl, act like u dont care if she ever replies back. i know it sounds crazy, but it does not feel good waiting, checking ur phone every so often seeing if the girl replies. have the frame of mind that u dont care about a reply, then u will feel less anxious, and more focused on ur game.

hope that i have helped. happy gaming dude ;-)


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:49 pm 
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thank you for the advice it really helped :) here is how the rest of my convo went i would really appreciate it if you could take a quick look at how the rest of our convo went, my mate said if we meet up i should try and kiss close please share your wisdom XD


HB9: You don't even want to know what will happen!! I do crazy shit when poked haha xx


ME: *poke*


HB9: Your asking for it now.... Xx


ME: i feel sorry for anyone that did more than poke you... your far more troublesome than i thought!! :P xx


HB9: I'm trouble! :) haha xx


ME: i reckon i might be worse... i could take you on! ;) xxx


HB9: Doubt that! ;) xx


ME: I bet i could prove it! xx


HB9: Go on then..... Xx


ME: fine. monday? and i can give you "the biggest hug eveeeeerrr!" hahah xx


HB9: Deaaall, Do you still go to long?? Xx


ME: nah sorry love, i left college :/ xxx


HB9: Well then where do I find this 'biggest hug eveeeeerrr!' ?xx


ME: close to my body, in-between my arms :) after you've finished college :) xx


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 12:36 pm 
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Sounds good so far. But you shouldnt do this cat and mouse chase for too long or else the novelty will wear off and then you find that you would be stuck and wont know how to proceed. keep a good balance between the cocky funny teasing stuff and the deep rapport.

about kissing her when you see her. one shouldnt make any decisions before hand. you have only an idea of her from messages on fb and never met her. she might be completely different to what you expect. so the best thing is to expect nothing so that you dont rush into things too quickly and end up losing. make the alterations and you will succeed.

happy gaming dude ;-)


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