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^ My experience will not allow me to love them and I refuse to date, kiss, or marry one point blank period, your advice was egregious. I am not changing my view on that whatsoever.

If you guys want to know, I realized the root of my problem, but fixing it you may be able to help me.

I have too much d*mn time on my hands is what it is. This problem comes up when I am alone sitting near a computer and then all of a sudden it sprinkles out hard. Main issue is that I am living at home for college and I hardly have much to do.

Now the solution would probably be to move to a bigger city and keep busy, issue is, how? In this economy how do I get my sh*t together to move to a better city? The town I live in is boring with not that much to do.

This thought keeps haunting me, why don't couples exist out there in which men are Indian and women are latin, asian, white, or black. Sometimes it just seems to me like it never happens.


Mate, first of all I suggest you to not worry anymore about what you think on picking up white women.

I live in London, and my mentor is an indian guy,Rich , great wingman but mainly a real PUA. He can get the number of any white girl in London in 6 minutes.
I have seen him in action more than 10 times and I think you guys if you need a cheap guide for learning this pick up should follow him sarging.
I cant forget the time he picked up a russian girl in the tube station, piccadilly seat to seat in just 5 stations inside the wagon... they couldnt hear each other but in the end the rich blonde russian in her 20s gave him the number.

These are the girls nations he sarged with in the last 3 months:
- france 9
- austria 7
- greece 7
- poland 8
- italy 9
- england 7
- sweden 8
- russia 8
etc.

I've seen all these chicks falling down with him, he can pick up 4 girls a day, with a success from 70 to 90%.

Race doesnt count , at all.
I agree with almost everything Richard try to teach here and on his guides.
Everything is about "value".

This guy has a lot of self confidence, looks always the girls in the eyes, dresses like hell and when he wants to sarge out he always use classic retro shoes, classy fancy color trousers, cool shirt and vintage jacket always with scarf, then he uses some accessories like golden ring or something. He doesnt care much about the hair.

And remember he is indian and actually is the guy with more girls I have ever met, and I am 29 (he is 26 though). The addressbook on his phone is so long with all girls names that he always forget who slept with him or not.
To make you understand, on june me and him wanted to help one of our thai friend that wasnt able to get any girl in london for 6 months, we were with him just out the station (holborn) at 20, a lot of people around, so he said: "Nai, look how it works: excusme do you have a lighter ?" to the girl behind us, pure random 6.
After a small chat they went alone in the front pub, we saluted him, the "example" was so long that he called me at 3 in the night directly from the house of the girl in front of that station.

Anyway, his look is cool but he is not better than me, people usually say that I look better but I can sleep with less than 1 third of the girls he get in the same time range. His tricks are : dress cool, get self confidence fast, talk alot (little bullshitting helps sometimes), ask the number. Easy pickups are girls from other countries, alone, because they are happy to start a random conversation.

Apply these things and you will see the results.
After all, if you think these issues are so important for you I strongly suggest you to take a PUA training course.

LTM and don't give a fuck about your race.

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^ My experience will not allow me to love them and I refuse to date, kiss, or marry one point blank period, your advice was egregious. I am not changing my view on that whatsoever.

If you guys want to know, I realized the root of my problem, but fixing it you may be able to help me.

I have too much d*mn time on my hands is what it is. This problem comes up when I am alone sitting near a computer and then all of a sudden it sprinkles out hard. Main issue is that I am living at home for college and I hardly have much to do.

Now the solution would probably be to move to a bigger city and keep busy, issue is, how? In this economy how do I get my sh*t together to move to a better city? The town I live in is boring with not that much to do.

This thought keeps haunting me, why don't couples exist out there in which men are Indian and women are latin, asian, white, or black. Sometimes it just seems to me like it never happens.


Mate, first of all I suggest you to not worry anymore about what you think on picking up white women.

I live in London, and my mentor is an indian guy,Rich , great wingman but mainly a real PUA. He can get the number of any white girl in London in 6 minutes.
I have seen him in action more than 10 times and I think you guys if you need a cheap guide for learning this pick up should follow him sarging.
I cant forget the time he picked up a russian girl in the tube station, piccadilly seat to seat in just 5 stations inside the wagon... they couldnt hear each other but in the end the rich blonde russian in her 20s gave him the number.

These are the girls nations he sarged with in the last 3 months:
- france 9
- austria 7
- greece 7
- poland 8
- italy 9
- england 7
- sweden 8
- russia 8
etc.

I've seen all these chicks falling down with him, he can pick up 4 girls a day, with a success from 70 to 90%.

Race doesnt count , at all.
I agree with almost everything Richard try to teach here and on his guides.
Everything is about "value".

This guy has a lot of self confidence, looks always the girls in the eyes, dresses like hell and when he wants to sarge out he always use classic retro shoes, classy fancy color trousers, cool shirt and vintage jacket always with scarf, then he uses some accessories like golden ring or something. He doesnt care much about the hair.

And remember he is indian and actually is the guy with more girls I have ever met, and I am 29 (he is 26 though). The addressbook on his phone is so long with all girls names that he always forget who slept with him or not.
To make you understand, on june me and him wanted to help one of our thai friend that wasnt able to get any girl in london for 6 months, we were with him just out the station (holborn) at 20, a lot of people around, so he said: "Nai, look how it works: excusme do you have a lighter ?" to the girl behind us, pure random 6.
After a small chat they went alone in the front pub, we saluted him, the "example" was so long that he called me at 3 in the night directly from the house of the girl in front of that station.

Anyway, his look is cool but he is not better than me, people usually say that I look better but I can sleep with less than 1 third of the girls he get in the same time range. His tricks are : dress cool, get self confidence fast, talk alot (little bullshitting helps sometimes), ask the number. Easy pickups are girls from other countries, alone, because they are happy to start a random conversation.

Apply these things and you will see the results.
After all, if you think these issues are so important for you I strongly suggest you to take a PUA training course.

LTM and don't give a fuck about your race.
wow, I am going to go with you and say that is real life, well, I am going to get to work

keep my grades up and in a semester or two transfer to a bigger university, work on bulking up a bit, get more social

what do you say guys? seem like a plan?

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I even repped the post I quoted but note my insecurity did not come from that.

As I said, I think with success a man can marry a 9 and day game is great but I am talking BARS AND CLUBS, do you think your mentor can have the same success at a club where he is going against Italian, Spanish, Latin, Black, British, and other guys who have game? In a setting like the club I notice people say that is where race tends to rear its ugly head.

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From my own observations, it's easier to be good at night game than day game if you're unattractive than. But you're not ugly, there is lots you could do to be better looking, but you're not ugly.

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I even repped the post I quoted but note my insecurity did not come from that.

As I said, I think with success a man can marry a 9 and day game is great but I am talking BARS AND CLUBS, do you think your mentor can have the same success at a club where he is going against Italian, Spanish, Latin, Black, British, and other guys who have game? In a setting like the club I notice people say that is where race tends to rear its ugly head.

Depends by the club and by the situations. I must say that cocktail bars are better than clubs for this kind of things. Anyway in UK is much easier than in example Italy, because girls go out mainly for drinking. I cant forget a night out in a pub after 30 minutes I was litterally surrounded on a couch by 4 girls each of them with a bottle of wine. The last girls we picked up in clubs were two swedish girls, one of them had so incredible eyes that there was a huge competition on her, but in the end Rich took her out to smoke and kissed her just after 10 min conversation.
He gave me a chubby svedish one, not totally bad but she wasnt my kind of girl... this is his problem, he is not very generous when we go out ;)

In clubs and bars these are the rules: everything is not verbal while dancing / easy pickups at the bar talking about cocktails / and the lighter trick works everytime outside.


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Greetings.

Great first post!
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^ My experience will not allow me to love them and I refuse to date, kiss, or marry one point blank period, your advice was egregious. I am not changing my view on that whatsoever.

If you guys want to know, I realized the root of my problem, but fixing it you may be able to help me.

I have too much d*mn time on my hands is what it is. This problem comes up when I am alone sitting near a computer and then all of a sudden it sprinkles out hard. Main issue is that I am living at home for college and I hardly have much to do.

Now the solution would probably be to move to a bigger city and keep busy, issue is, how? In this economy how do I get my sh*t together to move to a better city? The town I live in is boring with not that much to do.

This thought keeps haunting me, why don't couples exist out there in which men are Indian and women are latin, asian, white, or black. Sometimes it just seems to me like it never happens.


Mate, first of all I suggest you to not worry anymore about what you think on picking up white women.

I live in London, and my mentor is an indian guy,Rich , great wingman but mainly a real PUA. He can get the number of any white girl in London in 6 minutes.
I have seen him in action more than 10 times and I think you guys if you need a cheap guide for learning this pick up should follow him sarging.
I cant forget the time he picked up a russian girl in the tube station, piccadilly seat to seat in just 5 stations inside the wagon... they couldnt hear each other but in the end the rich blonde russian in her 20s gave him the number.

These are the girls nations he sarged with in the last 3 months:
- france 9
- austria 7
- greece 7
- poland 8
- italy 9
- england 7
- sweden 8
- russia 8
etc.

I've seen all these chicks falling down with him, he can pick up 4 girls a day, with a success from 70 to 90%.

Race doesnt count , at all.
I agree with almost everything Richard try to teach here and on his guides.
Everything is about "value".

This guy has a lot of self confidence, looks always the girls in the eyes, dresses like hell and when he wants to sarge out he always use classic retro shoes, classy fancy color trousers, cool shirt and vintage jacket always with scarf, then he uses some accessories like golden ring or something. He doesnt care much about the hair.

And remember he is indian and actually is the guy with more girls I have ever met, and I am 29 (he is 26 though). The addressbook on his phone is so long with all girls names that he always forget who slept with him or not.
To make you understand, on june me and him wanted to help one of our thai friend that wasnt able to get any girl in london for 6 months, we were with him just out the station (holborn) at 20, a lot of people around, so he said: "Nai, look how it works: excusme do you have a lighter ?" to the girl behind us, pure random 6.
After a small chat they went alone in the front pub, we saluted him, the "example" was so long that he called me at 3 in the night directly from the house of the girl in front of that station.

Anyway, his look is cool but he is not better than me, people usually say that I look better but I can sleep with less than 1 third of the girls he get in the same time range. His tricks are : dress cool, get self confidence fast, talk alot (little bullshitting helps sometimes), ask the number. Easy pickups are girls from other countries, alone, because they are happy to start a random conversation.

Apply these things and you will see the results.
After all, if you think these issues are so important for you I strongly suggest you to take a PUA training course.

LTM and don't give a fuck about your race.
thank you ;) You know, all my life in Italy I tried to improve my pu artistry but I didnt know anything about techniques, just instinct... I have discovered this world now with videos, and some books, this forum is a very nice place to improve our styles !

Anyway my main problem is that now I have a girlfriend ;) She is a 9/10 but some times sarging around is always funny expecially abroad !
OT: Any other pua with gf around ;) ?


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wow, so kasabi made this whole place turn into stormfront 2.0 but hey, it is all okay right? He can be a bigoted inbred racist and everyone would simply laugh it all off, you should watch the crap he posted on my other thread.
Paramount, notice how you judged Kasabi after he told you negative things about your personality. You don't really know if he is inbred. And from his post he isn't judging you for being Indian. He's judging you for being stubborn and what he considers mean, but he is using your insecurities to make fun of you. But it's not the race that is the problem. It's how you view yourself that causes you to get upset.

Granted his post is far from respectful, but it is very funny if you can laugh at yourself, which you did not. You resorted to calling him a member of the KKK and an inbred racist. That lets me know that you can't handle a joke.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Kasabi isn't an imbred, and from what I have seen here he isn't a racist, at least not crazy racist like some people I know.

It's like you pulled out the race card as soon as he started to make fun of you. The fact that his post got you so upset lets me know that you believe in some of the stuff he is saying. It's not important what he says if you don't believe it about yourself.

I really think your problem is that you are racist yourself. It could have to do with the town you grew up in, and being surrounded by white racist people. I'm not sure why, but I know from what I've seen and how you reacted on this post that you definitely have a problem accepting your identity as an Indian man.

I think you have a great plan about working out, studying, and trying to move to other environments. All of those things will help you. So if I'm unable to relate to you, I know that at least your plan is a start, but if you do listen to me then you can discover your problem more quickly and overcome it more effectively. I think travel is still your best best, because it will introduce you to new types of people that can open your eyes.

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Many good points.

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^ false, I have found most Indians that come here are of lower castes, the upper castes have it so well in India they stay there

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Interesting.

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BTW, just remembered, Matador is is Indian. Want some inspiration, watch the Pick Up Artist show and watch how comfortable talking about these things he is. He's fucked a shit load of chicks too.

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dude the brown mochaccino skin gets the ladies, you're setting yourself up to be the mysterious but attractive man. trust me, I'm Mexican going to school in Colorado.


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You have to loosen up and not worry about it. So what if you have never seen an indian guy date a girl from another country? Just by doing this, you are finding excuses and setting yourself up to not be good with girls of a different race.

You have to realise that race is just a mere boundary. I've met heaps of girls that have told me 'oh i'm not even into white guys, or i could never a be with a white guy' and minutes later, they do the exact opposite. Heck, I even know an Asian girl who claims to particularly not get along or asosociate with members of my ethnicity, but after minutes of talking to her, she was super comfortable, easy to talk to and probably into me.

You have to work with what you've got and if you think you can get the girl (and have the skills), then you definately can. Confidence is key!

Attraction doesn't have a race. Period.

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today I was at a table sitting by myself, got up to go get something and some said dance out loud talking to her friends and I thought she said hi or something, I made a weird facial expression as I was walking by (a wtf kind expression), she laughed with her friends

I decided to move and sit on the same table as the 4 of them and we talked, basically, I found out my issue.

GUYS, I am not away for college, I live at home for college and I tell you it is killin me! I do not go to a regular kind of college, just a commute type university, can be very frustrating.

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