Hi

I'm a long term semi-successful follower of the PAU school of thought iv been interested in this stuff for over 10 years now on and off. First found fastseduction then David D's stuff and found that cocky & funny and natural Alpha game worked well for me.

Recently Iv found myself in a very crappy situation, I'm in my early 30's with not much of a social circle at all. I was In a long term relationship for 6 years and have two kids however the relationship ended a couple of years ago and I found that most of my old buddies have either moved away or are married or something so even although I understand how to attract women I rarely find myself in a situation where I can excel. I have a few odd ball friends who I go drinking with from time to time but they arnt in the right kind of social circle where I can meet the type of women I like .

Iv never been very successful at approaching in clubs or bars but when the ice is broken I use natural game and do very well at it. I totally understand the psychology behind cocky and funny and natural game and virtually every women Iv ever had has been as a result of understanding this stuff.

But is there a way or technique that I can learn that will allow me to make friends easier and work my way into a better social circle that will give me more access to the type of women I'm after e.g. successful, good looking women mid 20's to early 30s.

Any of you guys done something similar? All advice welcome

Maybe I can help you. In the last couple of years I've been working on expaning my social circle and gaining new friends. I've found confidence has a lot to do with it.

I've developed techniques and strategies designed specifically for expanding your social circle. One of the things I developed is a technique called the FLIP. where when you learn and use it you can instantly approach and build new friendships by fliping your insecurites. If you're interested in learning more, write me on my personal.

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Wow, I thought I read something that I would've wrote, it's like deja vu. I was in a relationship exaclty like yours which ended. I one day was thinking the same thing, "I've made no real friends throughout my 30s". Same thing with the oddball friends, kids in my office that are single (mid 20s) act like drunken idiots, but it works for them - I, we all used to do the same crap. My bros (unmarried) my age, one is just, well, oddball is an understatement and the WORST wingman, my other buddy is married and kind of has a hall pass (long story), but he's little help, he's looking to me to get the girls over.

I undestand what you mean, you know how to do it, hold a conversation, etc., but breaking the ice is weird - I guess we're out of practice.

I'm starting to think I need to meet people through the physical activities I engage in or organizations and concentrate a little more on the social aspect of it all - but this is me hypothesizing, really.

I'm probably going to PM this member as well.

Join up in some kind of group meetup or activity and be super friendly to everyone from the get go. Example could be team sports, dancing, martial arts, community theater (volunteer or audition), poker, or any other kind of meetup.

LOL same story here but amplified by the fact that i moved several times...but i feel friendship is different at my age, I am more distant and independant now. Like for example...i could just simply not live with a roomate now...but i did all through my twenties. I meet women alot, you dont need other men with you to do that.

Join an activity club.

If you want to meet older people, try going to something that's more mature or mindful, such as a spiritual club, meditation group, book club.

I recently joined a spiritual club hoping to meet friends + girls more my age (25). I'm not inclined to spirituality at all, so I'm kind of the odd one out there but in a cool way. There is a real huge age span at this club (from 18-50), so if its representative of others, then you should meet people your age.

It kind of funny; I was thinking about some things I did in my twenties and early thirties (being a taken-man) that I used to say to myself, "young single guys should be doing this." Two of the four marathons I ran were for a charity, the same group; these teams are LOADED with single girls looking to hook up with guys; I even had a few slip-ups at their "happy hour socials". Damn, the girls actually starting giving YOU the intense eye contact -it's almost like they're the guys and we're the girls !!!! Oh wait, I just remembered, the end of season party (which was a shitshow) I ended up banging one of my co-teamates friends on her couch! She was easily an 8.5 - great body, very cute face. However, with that said, the actual team I remember a lot of 6-7s in the mix (and a lot worse! Fatties trying to complete a marathon with some support), a few 8s running around, maybe one 9; the 6,7s definitely were the majority though. These girls are all under the presumption that any guy involved is, well, one enjoys good health (true), but two, they think it's a chance for them to meet a truly "nice" guy with a good, kind heart (charity aspect); it's obviously the farthest from the truth from the guys pov as we all know. There was a coach in the group, man, he used to go through these chicks like toilet paper! Even within the same season!

In NYC, they have these things called Zogsports, I think there in other areas as well. I never joined any of the teams - but its like flag football, dodgeball, kickball, fun stuff both guys and girls can do - part of your fee goes to a charity; I know guys who used to particpate and they used to clean up! They also sponsor ski trips, I did one of those with a buddy that was out West - the deal was great as well. I hooked up with some FREAK chick the first night. I'd give her body an easy eight, she was in really good athletic shape, face, 7. She was there just to meet a guy and get freaky; we even had a couple of meet-ups back n the city - until she final had enough of me being a "pig" (she knew I had a gf).

This was all when I was involved with my ex-wife (pre-marriage).

I think I'm starting to answer the quesiton for both of us; however, we're going back to my late 20s, early 30s, I'm not sure if the results will be the same for mid 30s. I think focusing on grown up charity events might be the way to go, one, they're great for business and you do have a chance to meet some real hot, sophisticated women - especially if you go a breast cancer one, women like to show off their "girls" for those events. (They don't come cheap though)

J.

Well I see I'm not alone in this although no real closer to an answer really. Another thing that seems to go against me is I have a very introverted personality (INTJ) and most of my hobbies and pursuits are solitary kind of activity's or activity's that are very masculine or intellectual and you would be unlikely to meet women through them well at least the type Id be interested in. I really couldn't see myself running charity events or going to spiritual meetings lol Id be a complete fish out of water and have nothing to contribute. Also these type of things arnt as popular in the UK and young mid-twenty something hot chicks would not be a typical attendee lol

The game seems to be a bit different over here than in the states .

Not meaning to dis the suggestions here ...

Hi Recci,
Your post struck a personal cord with me too. It seems like you are a genuine guy that has learned from his mistakes. It's good that you have developed your game in cocky funny. I'm happy for you that you have the ability to pick up women.

Adversely, I think you would agree that instead of spending the last ten years focusing on PuA tactics you should have been focusing on bettering your life by advancement through your career, social circle, and hobbies. Because if you had there is a strong chance you wouldn't need to be here now.

You are getting older and you are still here on this site looking for advice on how to pick up women, but by doing it through social group interactions now.

I'd like to draw a conclusion that I'm sure you will realize quickly. You are focusing your energy in the wrong place. Instead of trying to find happiness by sleeping with women you need to find happiness by creating goals, and finding friendships.

Sex, as you have discovered is a temporal happiness. And after you have lost your sex you realized how valueless your life has become. Well I'm sorry to be so damn angry with you, but I'm really quite upset that you are still choosing to make the same mistake twice.

Why are you only interested in sleeping with women. At your age you should be focusing on deeper more sustaining relationships not based on pickup. You don't have to sleep with people in your social circle to have a good time and feel loved and valued.

-Magnum45

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The Answer to your problems:

Check out this site http://www.meetup.com/

You can search for groups in your age range or even create a specific group.

With the internet things are made easy now days.

I'm probably not going to say anything you've never heard before...Plus I'm younger (early 20's)...but just trying to help.. Get a copy of your local newspaper..most newspapers have a "community events" section..Find out whats going on besides bars and clubs. I mentioned in another post on this website, if you have a Convention Center in your area, maybe look into going to some shows and events that they host. Join a gym if you're into fitness. Or maybe a church? Even if you're not a religious person...for the most part you can find decent people in churches..Museums, art galleries, etc. Might as well give the online thing a go too.. I dont know what else at the moment. But I wish you luck on your journey and search. wish I could provide more help

I am 35 david d cocky funny sexual natural no social circle for the same reasons you listed, thanks got no kids, i hang out solo, and as you become a regular in a bar, club you develop a social circle it just happens when people keep seeing you all the time.... What is your goal? club game, night game, day game, why do you want a social circle anyways, i don't like social circles... i love hanging out solo.

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