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I know this stems from my guilt of sleeping with hookers
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. I know these people don't know a shred about me, but I start to get panicky and I know I project this! ... Or do I?
You're just an average young man experiencing average young men crap. Panicky? For God sakes, who gifted you with this affinity melodrama? If you're going to bring up panic, PLEASE have a panic attack. You know . . . a real one. GASP, CHOKE, GET WHITE, FALL OVER. Please, please. . . .

"I KNOW I PROJECT THIS!!" - Oh no!

Uh oh . . . I bet she knows you had a panic attack! Panny, fanny, panny attacky! Har, har, har . . . You probably also have stinky germs. Stinky, tiny dinky, har, har, har. . .

Come on man . . .

Your 'panickiness' is being exasperated by NOT opening and sitting there.
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I guess this goes beyond PUA, so I'm not sure if I should be posting this. But I started a new Spanish class a week ago. First week was OK, there even was this girl who I liked and spoke to.

This week, bam! All out of the window, because when I'm in a social scenario I go all paranoid... I know this stems from my guilt of sleeping with hookers. I know these people don't know a shred about me, but I start to get panicky and I know I project this! ... Or do I?

I know this is just an emotion. Nobody there knows me, yet despite this, every fucking time it's the same story. This is seriously, blocking any progress I could potentially make.

I've seen my shrink, and I still don't have really any real way to move forward.

Maybe it is just a case of keep going with social situations. The thing that irritates me is when I go back to my house, I look in the mirror, and I know I look good.

And one girl who was sat next to me didn't seem to notice... I know this is just an emotion in my head, but I'm wondering what to do.

I've got another 'going out' event as I'm driving to another city to celebrate my cousin's birthday. I can already feel that it is going to be one of those, I'm going to get weird scenarios. Hmm, how to deal with this negative/destruction thought processes?

I guess that's my next hurdle.

Lmao guilt from sleeping with hookers. . .

Ive never done so as it doesnt seem like an interaction where i couldn't get a boner.

But i have friends who have and just turn it into a funny story (seriously, its the funniest story ive ever heard in my life).

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Here are my tips, i was once like you (i havent come far though).

here are my pointers:


you have too many dreams, most of them dont have anything to do with pick up.

You're trying to jump into the deep end. I did this, trying to have full PU's when i could barely open. Learn to Open, then hook, then vibe, then close. Bit by Bit.

Too many excuses. Enough said.

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Im not criticising, ive been there. Took me 6months before i could properly open an attractive girl, that was from approaching everyday to w/e people.

Just start at page 1, forget the rest, dress good, learn about resistance vs acceptance (make this one of your main thought threads).

People talk about 'this' girl and 'that' girl but you have a whole city of women to learn to be good with women.


Posting about anything none-chick related in your journal is a complete waste of time.


Focus is a beautiful gift, use it wisely
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That guy above, good post man. Kasabi i needed to hear that, i over react to everything as usual. Da thanks for your comments and following.

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That guy above, good post man.
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Posting about anything none-chick related in your journal is a complete waste of time.
There are a lot of things to learn from what's going on in your mind and pu is just a facet of our lives. Of all the things you do in life, you get 'panicky' over some things and you don't for others. It's a good idea to figure out why.
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Yeah I agree, I think that these learning journals is much more to do with just pick up... Pick-up seems to be at the heart ...but posting anything non-pua related ISN'T a complete waste of time.

After all, everything in life is interconnected... And we've heard so many times that a good sex life is a by-product of a balanced, healthy NORMAL social life.

I think many of the guys here, myself included have big issues, not only just with pick-up but perhaps with confidence in general.

But at the same time I like the idea of homing in...
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It's a good idea to figure out why
I don't know why, it's something I've tried to figure out but never really came to any conclusions. Now I guess, it is a case of I get like this... now how to rationalise that it is completely irrational... and how to accept it but move with it.

It's time to start opening again...

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Except for this:
Yeah I agree, I think that these learning journals is much more to do with just pick up... Pick-up seems to be at the heart ...but posting anything non-pua related ISN'T a complete waste of time.

After all, everything in life is interconnected... And we've heard so many times that a good sex life is a by-product of a balanced, healthy NORMAL social life.

I think many of the guys here, myself included have big issues, not only just with pick-up but perhaps with confidence in general.

But at the same time I like the idea of homing in...
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It's a good idea to figure out why
I don't know why, it's something I've tried to figure out but never really came to any conclusions. Now I guess, it is a case of I get like this... now how to rationalise that it is completely irrational... and how to accept it but move with it.

It's time to start opening again...
For the first time i'll have to disagree with Kasabi.

A year ago, i started this and thought it was an OVERALL improvement on myself.
This cost me about 5months, once i realised/accepted it was a skill ive improved light years.

Its not a social issue, its a sexual issue. You overcome these by putting yourself in the situation until you become desensitised to it.

how far would you say you've come since you started this journal, out of interest?
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A year ago, i started this and ...
Good for you . . . but you're not tweeby. And:
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You overcome these by putting yourself in the situation until you become desensitised to it.
This is not his goal.

Seeing others for who they are and focusing on their needs/wants and working through it will get you far in pu. No reason to bake her a cake when she's asking for you to stick your cock up her pussy.
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I don't know why, it's something I've tried to figure out but never really came to any conclusions.
Lack of organization. I already know why you get huffy and puffy around girls. I bet you do too . . . but won't admit to yourself. Create a little chart with 1. Panicky (on one side) and 2. Not panicky (on the other)

Fill it out. Look for commonalities.
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I thought a lot of his goals were similar, if not the same said in different words.

Be good at face-to-face game

Game every other day

Get rid of 'AA'

- If ive misinterpreted im genuinely sorry.
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I thought a lot of his goals were similar, if not the same said in different words.

Be good at face-to-face game

Game every other day

Get rid of 'AA'

- If ive misinterpreted im genuinely sorry.
What you wrote is correct in many ways. No matter what you do, sooner or later, you have to go out and pick up some girls; this is a pick up forum after all.
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I'm starting to see slight improvements with persistence. I had my first interview for work in ages and another enquiry for free lance work. Today i went out with my mate. I had an opener. Do you think i should dye my hair blonde? It's a bit tongue in cheek cos i'm not white. I chickened out with the first set and just asked her wher was good to go tonight. The second set i took too long but delivered the opener cheeky and was calm. She shoot me an omg look but i remained strong and got a laugh out of her. I said if she thought that that was bad line she should hear my others. Dead pan look. . Do you believe in love at first sight or do i have to walk by twice. Then she laughed. Later i opened this girl smoking outside and she dragged us in to meet her friends. Then we hit the club and i hit the wall. I could do nothing. All in my fucking head. And my friend who already has a girl gets lucky. Then we go home. Oh well. . I guess the only way to make progress is to keep going . I plan to open every day next week. Watch this space.

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Okay,

I went out on Saturday with my mate this time to a different town.

And began opening, excuse where is good to go tonight. I'm able to pin this one down now, even on sets who are my ideal type.

Now I opened a two set from behind, and they where totally interested! Except the girl I was talking to was a 'cougar' ... As in she was ten years my senior, although she looked pretty.

Should I still try and close this type of woman on the basis of experience? What are your thoughts.

Also, I managed to secure my first free lance job. So that's a nice wad of money tax free in my bank account :) This secret is to push the sale and organise a meet up as opposed to showing my work via email... sometimes they don't like the websites I've previously written (just preference) so closing the sale in person is much better, by allowing them to IMAGINE what their ideal website will look like.

This should be, a quick and easy way to make money fast. I can re-use a template I bought to ensure a 100% profit ratio. Nice... Still waiting to hear back from that other interview but not holding my breath. Keep opening and applying seems to be the word of the day.

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So there is this Chinese girl in my Spanish Class.

I'm pretty sure she likes me. Proximity opener - as in she always sits next to me, asks me a bunch of questions during class and in general her timing seems off.

Like she takes for ages to pack up and leave. I never gamed a Chinese girl before, especially an overseas one.

Also, there is this other girl in kickboxing. She always seems smiley and happy when she is around me, although maybe this could just be her in general.

Any ideas on how to game, or number close... especially the chinese girl? Or am I over thinking this one?

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...So the phone interview I had turned out to yield nothing.

-Possible reasons...

-Maybe I was a little bit nervous on the phone.
-I couldn't answer some of their questions but have since made sure I can now after googling the answers.
-I need to work on my portfolio again. I don't think it is strong enough to compete with other employers.

Other than that I have had two jobs from just advertising, at least this is good. Let's be professional with this and finish it quickly.

I'm turning into quite a chef. Again, this is learned behaviour. I never used to cook for myself. I make a mean nando's style chicken.

Now back to the main point... Gaming.

I'm seriously slacking... This Chinese girl in my Spanish Class, I know she likes me the IOI's are too strong... Hmm class is closing let's try to get her number before term finishes and try to increase my friend circles.

Also, there is a girl at kickboxing (actually two), I think she may like me but I need to open, I don't speak at all... I need to get on this.

This week is back to basics. Day game all week. Let's get back out there!

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I saw that you read the heart rate thread. I think this is a good idea for you. You don't even need to say a word to open. The girl from kickboxing finishes sparring or a session on the bag and you point to her seriously, then you give a thumbs up. Then you laugh. . . she laughs. Then all you do is lengthen the sentences. . .

1. Not bad . . .
2. Hey, are you going to compete? . . .
3. Oh, ever been to _____? I went there last weekend, blah, blah, blah. . .

Same idea with the Chinese girl. Start with simple one liners.

Wow, I'm tired or Wow, I'm hungry . . .

Or say some goofy line in Spanish. . . that's all it takes. Easy invite to lunch or coffee from there. . . If she says no, your answer is, "OK, I'll drink enough coffee for two people . . ." Then next time, just do the whole thing over again. She might say "no" the first time around due to her own jitters or nervousness. If she does, she will NOT say no the second time around.
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