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Dude, in DC, I see plenty of Indian guys date attractive white women. I see East Asian guys date white women. I see Latino, blacks, etc.. date white women.

It happens if you try.

Trust me, I was in your boat. I made the same assumptions (I'm East Asian). But, through no effort of my own, I have met plenty of white women who have been attracted to me. The only reason they didn't work out was because I fucked up and punked out. After letting this happen one too many times, I am no longer making excuses for myself and I'm going out there, dealing with rejection every day to find the women who are worthwhile enough and cool enough to be in my life.

Listen, race does matter. You will face more rejection because you are Indian. It is just how it is. But, there are cool, progressive women out there for you who are opened minded about dating outside their race. You just have to find them.
Finally, I get to hear from an Asian brotha. I visited DC, never saw such a couple but hey I will take your word for it.

Man see I have this one Blonde, really good looking too, who does talk to me and this one brunette who often approaches me when she sees me and stuff. I mean but overall this thing it isn't like it gets me in real life but sometimes it does come up.

No article has given me more fits than this one:

http://www.rooshv.com/totem-pole-of-race-attractiveness

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Even if the statement that most Indian men were unsuccessful at courting women from different regions were true, what would that mean for you? Other peoples success rate is irrelevant. In my experience, I have found the statement not to be true anyway. Irrespective, you need to stop thinking racially i.e. in a herd mentality and start recognising your individuality and that it is not your race that is stopping you from getting women but your game itself.


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dude..go youtube "simple pickup". there's an indian dude on there that pick up a lot of hotties.
no, there is an indian dude who gets a lot of numbers from mostly unattractive, sometimes chubby girls. I've never seen a video of any of them making out with someone I'd consider.

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dude..go youtube "simple pickup". there's an indian dude on there that pick up a lot of hotties.
no, there is an indian dude who gets a lot of numbers from mostly unattractive, sometimes chubby girls. I've never seen a video of any of them making out with someone I'd consider.
good luck pulling 10s bro, with no practice, no experience, phone numbers are better then sitting home and crying about how you will never get laid, keep telling yourself it is impossible with 0 approaches under your belt, find all those good excuses for reasons why you can't when it is very simple, go do 100 approaches with the apocalypse opener, lets see you not got laid

women like sex, men like sex, if indians and asians couldn't get laid, then india and china wouldn't have such an epic population, stop coming to this forum and stay at home, give up, and start crying, cause you will be a virgin forever if you don't try and don't develop some confidence, rejection means nothing, you already know every excuse you are making is just ego protection,

why would a woman, who spends alot of time taking care of herself and has alot of options, consider dating a guy who doesn't take care of himself, does not have options, and does not even have the courage to approach her and make her feel special,

if you can not even love yourself, how could anyone else love you?

you simply don't realize how easy it truly is, because you will never actually try,
30 approaches in a day can be done in under 2 hours,

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Your insecure full stop. You need proof? I have a Indian friend with a hot "white" girl if that makes you happy. But I can tell you unless you improve yourself in many many ways over the next 2 years don't even bother attempting you're not ready.


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dude..go youtube "simple pickup". there's an indian dude on there that pick up a lot of hotties.
no, there is an indian dude who gets a lot of numbers from mostly unattractive, sometimes chubby girls. I've never seen a video of any of them making out with someone I'd consider.
good luck pulling 10s bro, with no practice, no experience, phone numbers are better then sitting home and crying about how you will never get laid, keep telling yourself it is impossible with 0 approaches under your belt, find all those good excuses for reasons why you can't when it is very simple, go do 100 approaches with the apocalypse opener, lets see you not got laid

women like sex, men like sex, if indians and asians couldn't get laid, then india and china wouldn't have such an epic population, stop coming to this forum and stay at home, give up, and start crying, cause you will be a virgin forever if you don't try and don't develop some confidence, rejection means nothing, you already know every excuse you are making is just ego protection,

why would a woman, who spends alot of time taking care of herself and has alot of options, consider dating a guy who doesn't take care of himself, does not have options, and does not even have the courage to approach her and make her feel special,

if you can not even love yourself, how could anyone else love you?

you simply don't realize how easy it truly is, because you will never actually try,
30 approaches in a day can be done in under 2 hours,

STOP BEING A PUSSY
Pumpington couldn't have said it better, STOP BEING A PUSSY,

my point was a bit off topic really, I'm just tired of people saying those simple pickup guys are rad. I've never seen a true hottie on their channel. But at least they have the right idea.

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Dude, in DC, I see plenty of Indian guys date attractive white women. I see East Asian guys date white women. I see Latino, blacks, etc.. date white women.

It happens if you try.

Trust me, I was in your boat. I made the same assumptions (I'm East Asian). But, through no effort of my own, I have met plenty of white women who have been attracted to me. The only reason they didn't work out was because I fucked up and punked out. After letting this happen one too many times, I am no longer making excuses for myself and I'm going out there, dealing with rejection every day to find the women who are worthwhile enough and cool enough to be in my life.

Listen, race does matter. You will face more rejection because you are Indian. It is just how it is. But, there are cool, progressive women out there for you who are opened minded about dating outside their race. You just have to find them.
Finally, I get to hear from an Asian brotha. I visited DC, never saw such a couple but hey I will take your word for it.

Man see I have this one Blonde, really good looking too, who does talk to me and this one brunette who often approaches me when she sees me and stuff. I mean but overall this thing it isn't like it gets me in real life but sometimes it does come up.

No article has given me more fits than this one:

http://www.rooshv.com/totem-pole-of-race-attractiveness
You are getting a lot of tough love on this board, but don't take it personally...just realize that you have to work on yourself first. Here's some practical advice:

First, start running, cycling, or swimming, and try to do one cardio activity a day 5-6 days a week for a half-hour to an hour per session. I try to swim three times a week (about 2500 meters in an hour), and on my dry land days I either run outside for about 45 minutes (I go slow 3-4 miles) or do a 45-60 minute spin class (I don't own a bike, but want to exercise my quads). I will do an elliptical if I am sick.

If you are a student and have spare time, try to do a two-a-day. Cardio in the morning and strength training in the afternoon. For strength training, I try to do body weights (decline pushups, pull-ups, dips, and squats), with some free weights and kettlebell work thrown in. Check out exercise sites like Crossfit...they have videos to show you how to do them. If you don't have a gym, just do body weights for now, but try to get a gym membership. I especially like doing circuits (doing one set of strength exercises and going to a different exercise without a break).

Also, change your diet. I don't know what you eat, but processed food makes you feel like shit. Eat more fruits and vegetables. Also, try to eat seasonally: an apple or pear right now tastes so much better than a candy bar to me. In winter, citrus is in season, so eat oranges. When spring and summer rolls around, eat berries, melons, and peaches. Always eat salads with plenty of protein in them. Replace all your white grains with whole wheat. Cut down on refined carbs and red meat. You will feel so much better within a matter of days.

These changes have helped me immensely with my emotional issues. When you keep doing this, and see the results, you will realize all these negative thoughts you have are nothing more than imbalanced chemicals that can be managed with rigorous exercise and diet. Looking better physically is also a nice bonus, but, more importantly, you FEEL better. And women notice.

Also, promise never to post a thread like this again. I am not saying this to be mean. But, posting these threads just keep these negative and toxic thoughts in your head. Obviously, race matters. But, you, nor I, nor anyone, on this board can change that. Posting here will not help you surpass this limitation you have set upon yourself. You are only digging a deeper hole by fixating on this issue and you are going to end up burying yourself if you don't start pulling yourself out of it NOW!

Seriously, don't try to game right now. I don't think you can handle the rejection. You need to improve yourself: work out, eat better, read, study, learn an instrument, write a novel...whatever. Make yourself higher value, to use a rather infelicitous term commonly bandied about on this board. Then, you will start seeing yourself as an accomplished, worthwhile person living his life to the fullest. And ultimately, that is the most important thing. The Dali Lama has never had a woman in his life, is very much still a virgin, but has lived a dynamic, full, and meaningful life. Don't get hung up on sex...it is not the most important thing. Living a full life matters most.

Gain perspective: I suggest reading "What the Buddha Taught" by Walpola Rahula. I am not a hardcore buddhist, and a lot of the theology is nonsense, but the Four Noble Truths say a lot.

Basically, the Four Noble Truths are: (1) life is suffering, (2) suffering comes from obsessive attachment, (3) to eliminate suffering, one must eliminate obsessive attachment, and (4) one can only eliminate obsessive attachment by living a life of moderation that eschews hedonism and asceticism.

In essence, this is the whole thing about one-nitis. Don't obsess about an individual girl. Don't obsess about sex. Don't obsess about being a virgin. Obviously, pursue girls and sex: these are natural cravings that the male body needs to satisfy, much like we crave water when thirsty and food when hungry. But, don't make sex the monomaniacal goal of your life. Always maintain perspective that sex is just a fraction of what makes your life fulfilling.

Other books to read: The Death of Ivan Ilyich by Leo Tolstoy and This Is Water by David Foster Wallace. Both give great practical advice about living life. Below is DFW making his This Is Water speech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5THXa_H_N8

This has turned out to be a much longer post than I intended. But Paramount, I hope you understand that life is more than picking up girls. Girls come, and girls go, but what really matters in life is having developed your mind, your body, and your spirit to an apogee of excellence. Work on that first, and the girls will come eventually.


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wtf I believe he was talking to you!!!


ugh, quote the proper person at least, jesus!

again, I do not want to marry a White woman, I do not want that one girl, I want to be a player period

I just hear about White guys going to different countries and going everywhere having success with women.

I am not even into White girls, I love Latinas, Asian women and mixed women, HOW MANY F*CKIN TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU PEOPLE THIS?

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Dude, in DC, I see plenty of Indian guys date attractive white women. I see East Asian guys date white women. I see Latino, blacks, etc.. date white women.

It happens if you try.

Trust me, I was in your boat. I made the same assumptions (I'm East Asian). But, through no effort of my own, I have met plenty of white women who have been attracted to me. The only reason they didn't work out was because I fucked up and punked out. After letting this happen one too many times, I am no longer making excuses for myself and I'm going out there, dealing with rejection every day to find the women who are worthwhile enough and cool enough to be in my life.

Listen, race does matter. You will face more rejection because you are Indian. It is just how it is. But, there are cool, progressive women out there for you who are opened minded about dating outside their race. You just have to find them.
Finally, I get to hear from an Asian brotha. I visited DC, never saw such a couple but hey I will take your word for it.

Man see I have this one Blonde, really good looking too, who does talk to me and this one brunette who often approaches me when she sees me and stuff. I mean but overall this thing it isn't like it gets me in real life but sometimes it does come up.

No article has given me more fits than this one:

http://www.rooshv.com/totem-pole-of-race-attractiveness
You are getting a lot of tough love on this board, but don't take it personally...just realize that you have to work on yourself first. Here's some practical advice:

First, start running, cycling, or swimming, and try to do one cardio activity a day 5-6 days a week for a half-hour to an hour per session. I try to swim three times a week (about 2500 meters in an hour), and on my dry land days I either run outside for about 45 minutes (I go slow 3-4 miles) or do a 45-60 minute spin class (I don't own a bike, but want to exercise my quads). I will do an elliptical if I am sick.

If you are a student and have spare time, try to do a two-a-day. Cardio in the morning and strength training in the afternoon. For strength training, I try to do body weights (decline pushups, pull-ups, dips, and squats), with some free weights and kettlebell work thrown in. Check out exercise sites like Crossfit...they have videos to show you how to do them. If you don't have a gym, just do body weights for now, but try to get a gym membership. I especially like doing circuits (doing one set of strength exercises and going to a different exercise without a break).

Also, change your diet. I don't know what you eat, but processed food makes you feel like shit. Eat more fruits and vegetables. Also, try to eat seasonally: an apple or pear right now tastes so much better than a candy bar to me. In winter, citrus is in season, so eat oranges. When spring and summer rolls around, eat berries, melons, and peaches. Always eat salads with plenty of protein in them. Replace all your white grains with whole wheat. Cut down on refined carbs and red meat. You will feel so much better within a matter of days.

These changes have helped me immensely with my emotional issues. When you keep doing this, and see the results, you will realize all these negative thoughts you have are nothing more than imbalanced chemicals that can be managed with rigorous exercise and diet. Looking better physically is also a nice bonus, but, more importantly, you FEEL better. And women notice.

Also, promise never to post a thread like this again. I am not saying this to be mean. But, posting these threads just keep these negative and toxic thoughts in your head. Obviously, race matters. But, you, nor I, nor anyone, on this board can change that. Posting here will not help you surpass this limitation you have set upon yourself. You are only digging a deeper hole by fixating on this issue and you are going to end up burying yourself if you don't start pulling yourself out of it NOW!

Seriously, don't try to game right now. I don't think you can handle the rejection. You need to improve yourself: work out, eat better, read, study, learn an instrument, write a novel...whatever. Make yourself higher value, to use a rather infelicitous term commonly bandied about on this board. Then, you will start seeing yourself as an accomplished, worthwhile person living his life to the fullest. And ultimately, that is the most important thing. The Dali Lama has never had a woman in his life, is very much still a virgin, but has lived a dynamic, full, and meaningful life. Don't get hung up on sex...it is not the most important thing. Living a full life matters most.

Gain perspective: I suggest reading "What the Buddha Taught" by Walpola Rahula. I am not a hardcore buddhist, and a lot of the theology is nonsense, but the Four Noble Truths say a lot.

Basically, the Four Noble Truths are: (1) life is suffering, (2) suffering comes from obsessive attachment, (3) to eliminate suffering, one must eliminate obsessive attachment, and (4) one can only eliminate obsessive attachment by living a life of moderation that eschews hedonism and asceticism.

In essence, this is the whole thing about one-nitis. Don't obsess about an individual girl. Don't obsess about sex. Don't obsess about being a virgin. Obviously, pursue girls and sex: these are natural cravings that the male body needs to satisfy, much like we crave water when thirsty and food when hungry. But, don't make sex the monomaniacal goal of your life. Always maintain perspective that sex is just a fraction of what makes your life fulfilling.

Other books to read: The Death of Ivan Ilyich by Leo Tolstoy and This Is Water by David Foster Wallace. Both give great practical advice about living life. Below is DFW making his This Is Water speech.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5THXa_H_N8

This has turned out to be a much longer post than I intended. But Paramount, I hope you understand that life is more than picking up girls. Girls come, and girls go, but what really matters in life is having developed your mind, your body, and your spirit to an apogee of excellence. Work on that first, and the girls will come eventually.
going to be dead honest here, I did not come on this place for some religious awakening

I want to be a player, a casanova, and I wanna stick my d*ck inside of a woman of every single race I can

either help me out or don't even bother replying, and no spiritual help, I need experiences and tips and everything (not to be rude but I came on here to seek advice on how to be a player)

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Then let me make this simple:

Dating is a marketplace.

Girls, being rational consumers, want high quality products.

High quality products have practical skills, social skills, intelligence, wit, and fitness.

You are not a high quality product. You do not work hard enough. You do not appear to be particularly well read or skilled at anything. You don't appear to have any aspirations in life outside of being a "Casanova." And, most devastatingly, you have crippling low confidence in yourself.

Ergo, you will not be wanted by girls (and subsequently, you will not get laid). Q.E.D.

None of the stuff on this board will help you until you make yourself a better person. All of these openers, routines, games, whatever are just icebreakers to get you to talk to girls. Girls aren't stupid: if a low quality product tries to use MM, or NLP, or C&F, or whatever, they are going see right through him as a fake and blow him out of the fucking water.

I am supremely indifferent as to how you can improve yourself. Read Chicken Soup for the Soul or an Ann Landers column for all I care. But, until you make yourself a better person, you are wasting your time right now on this board.


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You are not a high quality product. You do not work hard enough. You do not appear to be particularly well read or skilled at anything. You don't appear to have any aspirations in life outside of being a "Casanova." And, most devastatingly, you have crippling low confidence in yourself.
bingo ... lol

most guys actually fucking talk shit about themselfs and woman ... and if you talk to them you will find out they never done more than 3 approaches in their whole fucking life... lol i started out with nothing .. no books no material .. i had to do everything on my own rofl... I approached some chicks in the mall - my 5th approach in my whole life lol...

those girls actually liked me... i was surprised ... i wasn't vaporized .. i wasn't damaged or hurt.

stop making fucking excuses and stop the complain of carnival... you can approach anyone anytime anywhere....

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you people are out of touch with reality

asian guy, you live in DC, A HUGE CITY, you don't know sh*t about being in a small town, lol, my approaches my a**, you approach a girl here you can bet your a** she knows most of your friends in most cases

what approaches?

I live in a small deep south town, it is completely out of the norm to approach women here. It is a small town and nearly everyone in a magical way knows someone else which is really strange. Most people here are heavily Christian. Place is miserable and i do not have any means of getting out!

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you people are out of touch with reality

asian guy, you live in DC, A HUGE CITY, you don't know sh*t about being in a small town, lol, my approaches my a**, you approach a girl here you can bet your a** she knows most of your friends in most cases

what approaches?

I live in a small deep south town, it is completely out of the norm to approach women here. It is a small town and nearly everyone in a magical way knows someone else which is really strange. Most people here are heavily Christian. Place is miserable and i do not have any means of getting out!
yeah cause you wouldn't want to get a rep as ''that guy'' who flirts with girls, and makes them feel good... right? wouldn't want more girls talking to you or anything building value for you ;)

anyways this is the last one for me, you obviously have crippling AA and a ridiculous view of yourself, you are and average guy, not below, not above, you can get girls easy if you stop being a pussy, but you wont, because you don't want to, you want to fail, so you can feel comfortable and sorry for yourself, just keep living life in a shell, stay home, don't go out, learn to cry all the time, because when you're 30 and still a virgin, you are going to feel even shittier about your self and are going to need to cry, you can ask yourself WHY DO NO HB10s JUST APPROACH ME OVER AND OVER AND OFFER ME SEX, I WANT TO BE A PIMP AND NOT PUT ANY EFFORT INTO IT


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This is my last one too.

I see you edited your first post. That is unfortunate, because I thought I was finally getting through to you.

I see a lot of myself in you when I was your age (18-19, right?). I grew up in a small town and got no action. I moved to NYC to college and got little action with women I didn't find appealing. I went to law school in the Midwest where there were no Asian women and had a long dry spell.

I finally got to DC, started realizing I lived in a metropolitan place with lots of cool, socially progressive people. I got over my pity party and strove to improve myself. I taught myself the guitar. I read War and Peace and Remembrance of Things Past. I go to happy hours, lectures, gallery openings, networking events. I left my job after I got unhappy and am now trying to save up to run my own business one day. I go out and talk to women who interest me and I find attractive.

Notice the pattern: all these things begin with the word "I." You have to take the initiative to live your life. And yes, you will fail...that's how life works. But failure can do only two things to you: destroy you or make you stronger. But, it is ultimately your choice and you should choose to pick yourself, learn from your failure, and become stronger.

Women like ambition. Women like goals. Women like seeing a track record of accomplishment. And women like men who believe in themselves.

You said you got good grades: fantastic. Build on that and become better at other things.

You hate where you live: move. No one is stuck where they are, they only choose to stay. Apply for jobs outside of your hometown after you graduate from school.

I gave you a template to help improve yourself. You are too far gone right now to be "gaming" women. You need to build a baseline level of self-esteem and confidence first. The very fact you keep coming back here to be the butt of all jokes to the posters here demonstrates you have underlying issues you have to resolve. Get professional help or don't. But recognize that YOU ARE THE PROBLEM! Not society, not your parents, not your friends, not anyone posting on this board. You and you alone.

Anyway, I sincerely wish you the best of luck. I hope things turn well for you.


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You are too far gone right now to be "gaming" women.


what does that even mean?

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