this thread is about why woman think what they think and why woman do what they do ....it's about female psychology and things men do have like a maria complex... instead of coming to me with a explanation you just tell me im a woman hater or whatever... i do not hate woman .. i just don't respect them .. i have woman in my live and they like me - i also like them... if i really hate woman i probably would join some feministic forum just to flame on them .. i don't .... if i really hate woman i would punch them or manipulate them... i don't...

please explain it all to me .. explain it why all woman are having all these thought patterns.. explain to me why relationships fail when woman lead the relationships. Explain to me what i wrote.... humans are not seperated from animals...instincts are stronger than morals and conciousness.

you just put a huge stamp on me '' woman hater '' instead of trying to relate to me and debating you just throw a stone and walk away... it's weak... if you don't want to discuss things but you want to judge people then you are even more worse than i thought. to me it seems like you are someone who is just defending hs paradimes...look if you don't give a fuck than why are you responding anyway ? if im a woman hater than why bother to say such thing ? to me it seems like you are getting all emotional and attacking me on purpose.

what did they do with people that said the planet was round centuries ago .. they got hanged for their ideas...just like most scientists or people with creative ideas. don't fucking hang me for making my observations.. im just making a observation and im saying the earth spins around the sun... no the otherway around - why is it impossible to have a disscusion about it ?

im pointing out such thing like a maria complex - the effect that social conditioning has on your paradimes around woman... suddenly you start defending your mom and that kind of shit...to me that is only more proof that it does exist... i don't care if your mom is fucking awesome, i don't care who she is or what she does - if i would i would have asked.... instead conversate with me on some of my questions and observations ( including that of others .

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Lol, Lode. You're missing the point. Your way of speaking about women reveals your resentment towards them. I'm not saying all women are perfect, but neither are all men. Men mess up just as much as women. We,too, are emotional and sexual beings. Men cheat. Men lie. Men manipulate people. Don't blame everything on women.

If you cannot understand what I'm saying now, then something is seriously wrong with you,man.

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urban dictionary definition of women: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=women

dont hate the player, hate the game. there will be women who are manipulative bitches, like my mother and ex-gf, or you can find a sweet girl like the idealized southern bell.

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This link seriously cracked me up...

(women)...

When said beings reject such specimens of men or express an intelligent opinion, they are bitches.
When they don't put out, they are also bitches. When they do, they are sluts.


Dick: "Women are illogical, make no sense, are emotionless blobs, nag constantly, are always man-hating. They should just shut up, clean house, kneel, know their place, and blow me."

Women: "Ha ha, you're just mad because you can't get any pussy and you've got a tiny pecker."

John: "Dick, you're a sexist asshole *punches Dick.* I respect smart, strong women. I love my mama. I like to eat pussy. I've got a job; I don't make a lot, but I work hard and I'm ambitious. I've seen a treadmill before."

Women: "John, we all love you. Can we please suck your giant cock? Would you like to have an orgy with us? Please, oh please?"

John: "Yes, ladies, I would appreciate that. May I hold the door open for you?"

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"don't listen to this creeper reputation bullshit, girls like to get hit on / get attention, don't be afraid to do so, girls forgive advances, but they NEVER FORGIVE PUSSIES" - from pumpington

that's hilarious, but not necessarily true.

because said men are too mean, stupid, sexist, ugly, and unaccomplished

mean: never laid a hand on a woman in anger

stupid: IQ somewhere between 130 and 170 depending on how much coffee i've had

sexist: was raised by all women, respect(ed) them

ugly: i'm a fairly good looking guy, workout 4-7 times per week, low body fat, buff, "i have been called a tall drink of water"

unaccomplished: working toward my third college degree, started a business on the side, use my money wisely and responsibly, have things to show for it, own(ed) a home and car

......

and i was still cheated on by the mother of my child of over a decade who fucked, as Lode would say: a homeless, jobless, fat, crackhead from the streets who plays video games all day long.

......

and yes, before you asked, i regularly fucked her till she squirted.

when a women cheats, it isn't a condemnation of the man she is with, it is a condemnation of her.

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Your point? You and Lode act as though a man has never cheated on a good woman.

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Wtf guys. I'm not such a sentimental guy but this thread almost brought me to tears. Especially Lodewijkz's posts. I used to respect your views but not anymore.

Some very frustrated angry-at-life people in this thread and I'd like to offer a different point of view. I don't see how people with these kinds of mentality can have any sort of meaningful relationship with others. In any case, unless it is physical violence, whenever you experience as bad it is because you are letting it happen and if you don't trust others it is solely because you don't trust yourself (with the consequences of your trust).

I'm not disagreeing that a lot of people are fucked up self-serving douchebags, by the way. To the contrary, I may be the most cynical regarding human nature in this thread. But why care what others are or think or if their actions are good or bad? Who cares, why let them affect your reality? I trust myself completely and psychologically really nothing bad can happen to me because I won't experience the outcomes of my thoughts and choices as bad, no matter what. Besides all of that, it's just way more fun to at least pretend people are all right until proven wrong.

lol

i'm not angry at all

i'm just speaking frankly

which is something i don't do all that often

i am not mad at women.
i don't dislike women.
i don't mistreat women.
i enjoy the company of women.
i entertain the women in my company.
i appreciate the things that women do for me, when it happens.

and you are right, it's not just women that are fucked up.

it is humans in general.

that being said, i don't trust women.

why?

because in my experience, they are all untrustworthy.

i also don't trust men.

ding-ding-ding! see...it's not misogyny.

it's just that i don't put my heart on the line for men like i used to with women.

my cynicism serves the same purpose as a firewall in IT technology.

defense.

no trust. no harm.

doesn't mean you can't "thoroughly enjoy" the company of the fairer sex.

in the job i do, i work with women every day, by the way.

most of them are married.

a large portion of them sends me "fuck me" signals.

even right in front of their husbands.

i've always thought it was frighteningly odd.

had a married woman today, customer of mine, husband was a successful lawyer, beautiful house on the lake, great kids, a cool dog, nice cadillac in the driveway. she was all over me for two hours while i worked in her house. at any point, i could have made my move. she just kept saying my name over and over when she talked to me, twirling her hair, standing on her tippy-toes when she would approach me, BITCHING about her husband.

this is not rare behavior.

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I'm back.
I've read and thought a lot about these viewpoints in the past week. After such little time, I've come to my personal, and ultimately satisfying viewpoint on women.
This is where I now stand with this view summarized into five steps. It is amazing how much better I feel about women:

1. I love my girlfriend
2. I trust her
3. Sure she would want to/thinks about fucking other guys, just like I imagine myself fucking girls I see on the street. But I doubt she would, because as long as she's got just as good morals as me, she has no problems resisting such superficial temptation.
4. If she did, I would feel bad for one week or so, we would break up.
5. then repeat the process over till I find a woman who is completely good to be with, or repeat it until I die.

Either way, the majority of the time in the relationship, the good memories and loving, overcome the period you can mourn over it being finished. Moreover, the positives are that you are allowing yourself to experience love over and over again in your lifetime with this sort of mindset. You attain respect for women, and if they fuck you over, you respect another.
You will not feel lousy about how women are savage evolutionary machines, but you will rather love them even for being that and enjoy your time with them until its up.
Doing this, your life will be filled with long periods of love with many attractive females, followed by one short period of sadness before you carry on.
Each time I've loved a girl, it's felt stronger than the last. That's why I think this is way of life is going to work so well.

Having said, I'm positive in finding someone (even if it's after being in fucken' 20 relationships) who will be on par with my morals. That might be my current girlfriend, it might be the one that appears after another 30 girlfriends, who knows.
Regardless of being hurt, or hurting yourself, eventually you will find one who is just as good a person as you are. And why wouldn't you?

I completely believe that Mack has wives giving him "Fuck me" signals. But does every single one?
I completely believe Lodejks standpoint that even your mum may have fucked another 10 dudes and blown a homeless guy because evolutionary, she's programmed to love dick in and around her. But does that mean that every single good willing female has? It would be completely idiotic to believe that even 90% of married women have done that. And I know that you guys specifically know that as well - not such a high percentage has committed adultery nor would (where wanting to and doing it are two separate things altogether)

Hence, we should trust and be heartbroken, and trust and be heartbroken again, until we find one of the few that is perfect to us. From a statistical perspective, if you dated 30 girls, there is a huge chance that (at least) one of them would be willing to be yours and yours only for life. That's obvious.
But by not trusting or respecting due to a bad majority (assuming it is a majority), you cannot allow yourself to find and then keep that girl with only good intentions.

3/4 of married "people" (men and women) have sex with someone else at some point. that is the statistic you were referencing (at least in that admitted it in long-term reputable studies)

and you are right, it's probably only 85% of the married women who crawl all over me when i'm working.

however, there is a lot i respect in your post. including your choice to have your own strongly held beliefs and path forward that is filled with respect.

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+5

Mack exactly says what im thinking...

i also said i do not trust people in general.. that means woman and men .. woman are far more emotional and are less in control than men.. when a woman is attracted through instincts she leaves a much bigger mess than most men. once a woman gets control over the relationship it fails... woman are more emotional and irration .. when they get attracted to another guy and they have control over the relationship .. what the hell do you think is going to happen ?

look dude .. i had relationships and girlfriends but i have never cheated on anyone... some of my dates and girlfriends did cheat on me for no particular reason. Cool story about how most men cheat... but that doesn't apply to me... you have many screwed up men as well - and that is very true... but im not dating men. i just see more woman who are just way more fucked up than most men are...

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+ ∞

both men and women are untrustworthy until proven otherwise. The ones who are, and are monogamous, are people that you should surround yourself with

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Hey Bro

This sounds positive.

It is amazing how much better I feel about women:

1. I love my girlfriend
2. I trust her
3. Sure she would want to/thinks about fucking other guys, just like I imagine myself fucking girls I see on the street. But I doubt she would, because as long as she's got just as good morals as me, she has no problems resisting such superficial temptation.
4. If she did, I would feel bad for one week or so, we would break up.
5. then repeat the process over till I find a woman who is completely good to be with, or repeat it until I die.

How are things going now?

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Stan

"don't listen to this creeper reputation bullshit, girls like to get hit on / get attention, don't be afraid to do so, girls forgive advances, but they NEVER FORGIVE PUSSIES" - from pumpington

I used to think I was cynical. This thread has cured me.