Well I’ve gone out with this girl a couple times and we’ve had a great time, the first time we had the most chemistry and although we’ve still had a lot of fun I see the interest waning or at least not at the same level. I was planning on going to a movie and invited her along, we talked a fair bit before the movie about what she was into, asked if she could pick any type of occupation to do for the rest of her life what would her dream be. It went really well, until the movie started, we still talked a bit, as much as one can during a movie and I negged her a couple times for jumping and covering her eyes, she laughed and lightly smacked me on the arm playfully. Then she kind of shifted with her knees closer to me but her body leaning away from me (leaning on the arm of the seat away from me). In terms of eye contact, she has no problem looking me in the eye and then looking away with a smirk/smile, so its not as if she’s avoiding eye contact.

I want to make sure that I don’t head into the LJBF zone but I fear that’s where it will be heading if I don’t do something soon, but then on the other hand I’m wondering if I’ve paid too much attention to her and if I should back off for a little bit. I’m a pretty shy and over-analytical guy thus I think WAY too much about everything, and I’d love to have a clear indication that she won’t reject me if I do show her that I’m interested in being more than a friend. Any suggestions?

Finally as middle school as this sounds I never know how to initiate hand holding, I get no resistance from her when I playfully pat her on the head saying “oh dear dear” when she was complaining about something that happened at work and she playfully hits me on the arm, lets me put my hand on her back when I let her pass by me etc. but I really don’t know how to initiate more kino that actually leads somewhere. Again, any suggestions in general would GREATLY be appreciated.

Thanks again for all the help, hopefully I'm not beyond hope in the pua game !

alright on the hand holding thing, just grab it, thats all there really is to it. grow a set, and just grab her hand. and theres no really bad time. during a movie, while walking shoulder to shoulder usually goes well. its just a matter of doing it.

ya, my biggest piece of advice for your situation is to step up the kino. she sounds like shes interested in you, so just step up your alpha-male side! every guy has it in him. check out what it is to alpha in the search. also if i were you i would continue to make each date more intimate. ya know after you guys go out wherever, go back to yourplace for a movie and popcorn. cook her dinner one night. slowly make things more romantic so she understands where your heading, ya know?

post back if you think you need some more info, but good luck,

PB

I know this sounds odd but unfortunately both of us live with other family members as she just moved from out of town and is staying with her mother at the moment and I am at home as I'm waiting for my place to be built, so as much as I'd like to do the cook dinner for her, movie and pop-corn at my place its tough as we'd have someone else always there, which tends to make everyone feel less private/on display, especially with family members.

Any other great insight from those who aren't quite as shy and analytical than I? Do you think I should ask her to do something again (possibly this weekend), or wait a little bit?

Sorry to sound so confused, I know I should just act and not give a care... but unfortunately its a lot easier said than done. Thnx!

You sound just like me and probably act the same way as well. I over analyze everything. My advice would be to hang out with her again, try go get as many IOIs as possible, grab her hand, and go for a kiss close near the end of the night. I know it's hard to initiate all that, but if she's into you, she's probably dying to hold your hand and she's asking herself, "why is he waiting so long to kiss me?"

Sonic, think about Kino in terms of 3 steps forward one step back. For example say you nudge her calling her a dork *Neg* . Then you take her hand and whisper something into her ear like, you can't resist my charm.*Sign of Confidence* Lean back with a slight grin. While you are close to her follow up with the hair touch kiss test. If she seems negatively uncomfortable at any steps of contact take a step back. You are creating sexual tension, it's a good thing.

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Desmaro.

There was a typo. Refer to 2 steps forward 1 step back. David D'angelo cocky funny.

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"Don't hate the playa, learn the game"

Desmaro.

I would say just starting touching her every now and then like on then shoulder and back for a few seconds. Also just take her hand. Girls tend to like guys who just do it. Its more alpha. Like this:

Alpha: Just takes her hand and squeezes.
AFC: "Can I hold your hand?"

AFC sounds creepy! So just take her hand. She will become more attracted to you.

Bedrock