Registered just to post my hilarious encounters with PUAs

Starting with the most recent one

I had one date recently with a guy and since then had been ignoring his text messages as I found myself not interested at all. Then I got a text from him yesterday:

The weirdest thing just happened......... I just saw a cat in the street that look exactly like you. Message me back quickly so I know a wizard hasn't turned you into a cat LOL

I laughed as it was a silly funny text, but did not want to reply because I can smell desperation from the content of the text. It's a dry joke, and It was obvious he was trying hard to get my attention, and desperate to resume contact
Then I thought this does not look right. Within 10 seconds since I raised my suspicions I googled it and was directed to a post on this page, a post about what to do if the girl is not replying your text messages. And apparently this text message is suggested by a senior PUA guy name Alex. Oh god this is so much more hilarious than the original joke.

Replied: This is line by line from PUA forum. I knew that line lol.

Unbelievably the guy replied: ha ha, knew this line already. I promise I give a line you never heard before next time. Hope you are well and good to hear from you again

Ok end of the story for this guy. I have to say as a girl even if I did not find out I would not see this line working to your advantage, so much desperation in it, don’t know why it was recommended

Oh and about the DHV thingy, dated a guy who was very funny but was doing the DHV thingy all the time, he’s always trying to sound popular. And he’s definitely smart in doing it and it’s nothing silly/naive like pretending to have texted the wrong girl etc (Read a bit of the game later on and was pretty sure he’s a PUA though) I was ok with it and thought he is actually popular, then I found out he was bluffing, ignored his attempts to contact me for a few months. And a few months later he texted me, and I text back, thought maybe we could be friends, since he was not bluffing about his popularity anymore

After a few text messages exchange, he started to pretend to be on a date, I got annoyed with his insecurity n texted: let me guess, you are probably at home now cooking dinner and fancy pretty girls and pretending to be dating coz you think it’s not cool to be alone at home on a Saturday night. You are such an insecure person dude.

Ignored him all together since, though he tried to make contact several times for more than half a year

Ok the third guy is not funny and I don't want to talk about it much, as the guy is likely to be still active in PUA and might see this. He was actually famous in the PUA field as he was once a leading guy in the field in this country. He was dating none stop for a long time and then fell in love with a girl who was emotionally unavailable to him. He struggled, cried and tried so many things and had to give up. Now he’s dating a rebound, and sucking on her love to heal his bruised ego. Ok this one is not funny, especially for the poor girl who is crazy about him and doing everything for him, knowing he is not into her and is still not over the other girl

Sometimes I kind of feel like to date this guy though, just to see if I can finish off this challenge or being finished off by the challenge

The line itself is not bad if used in the right context and with the right person. This may sound general, but if you have had a great date with the guy and he was coming from a place of confidence, you probably would have fallen for it .

There's a lot of Text-book PUAs out there, and unfortunately women get to meet them. Then we all get labeled as lame, while at the same time some other good PUAs are having sex with chicks, and those women just think those guys are "special".

Anyway, welcome to the forum Elise

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There's a weird sort of stigma attached to PUAs that label them as *evil* manipulators and liars. I can't disagree with the fact that I manipulate people, or that I lie to people. Though, no one on the entire planet can.

Whenever you smile at a person, they smile back. Then, because they smiled, they have a moment of happiness. Therefore, everytime you smile at someone, you're manipulating them.

Whenever someone asks how you're doing, and you reply "good", you're lying to them for the sake of not bringing them down. It's not ill-intentioned, but it's still a lie.

PUAs *should* not be ill-intentioned. We should be focused on the goal of making women feel happy and beautiful. "Leave her better than you found her" as Ross Jeffries would say. Women are fantastically beautiful with unimaginibly complex excentricities and thoughts. They mystify and captivate my mind. I love women, therefore I study women. I entertain, I fulfill, I calibrate, I phase-shift, and I close in a way that fulfills both of us completely. If you're a PUA and you're not doing that, you're wrong.

So when you feel like you're being "picked up" by an artist, take the time to lower his "pick up shield." Say something like "I'm flattered by the fact you're trying to keep me entertained and in love with you, but can you just promise to be honest about YOURSELF? I don't want to fall in love with a lie." See how he responds. And don't be so critical of him. Chances are, you've got just as many flaws as he does, Elise. And after all, aren't we all just looking to be loved?

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well for girls, wouldn't girls prefer guys that at least try rather than not doing anything?, it's totally up to you to decide on which guy to go out with but we're only trying to better

who is this guy?

Thanks

Well if a girl had a great date with the guy then she wud be replying to his text messages, hence he would not need to send that text trying to get her to reply. And the fact that the guy is sending this message means she's not quite interested. And the text in that context would not help as it obviously sounds desperate

I met only one text book PUA, the others are quite smooth. I think there's a lot of guys out there doing it these days, from Oct last year till now I encountered 4 PUAs. But I wanted to challenge the third guy as he's the master PUA lol

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No I did not think PUAs are evil, I actually enjoyed the tango when I previously dated PUAs. But that was before I got to know the stories surrounding a few PUAs

Take the PUA master guy I know for an example. He seems to be a good guy and he would refuse to teach a guy how to pick up women if the guys shows disrespect to women or seems to be up to something bad. He thinks himself a good guy and tries to justify what he does

But he was attracted to a girl already in a stable relationship, tried to get her but failed, he then got heart broken and just picked up another woman as rebound to heal his briused ego. Even knowing himself is not that into her and used his techniques to make her attracted and in love with him. I just think its selfish and immature to use and manipulate someone else like this.

And the girl's not better off. She's obsessed with the guy but feels she's not good enough for him (for god's sake she was a model and is a wonderful girl from what I heart) which is why he could not commit to their relationship. And the previous girls he dated felt bad about themselves too because he could not commit to them. And he's not the only PUA I know who left a tail of victims.

"Leave her better than you found her" I heart this before from a PUA But I think its more of a justification wanted by many PUAs to have their peace of mind. As we human always need justification for our actions. I was involved with a few PUAs and heart their dating stories. They were convinced they left the women better off. But as a girl, I knew it was not true. They just needed to be convinced what they did was not wrong

'you've got just as many flaws as he does. ' I agree with this one, we dislike certain flaws in others because we are trying to suppress that part in ourselves. I had my time being a player playing with people's heart, enjoying my influence over others. It was my friends who were much more mature than I was that convinced me that I need sincerety not techniques to build a good relationship. still learning

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Girls want sincerety and confidence from guys. If a guy's plays mind games and being discovered, he ruins his chances

Thanks for your honest opinions, Elise. It really helps to get a woman's perspective on how the game works. Especially in the lives of the "other side".

As for the "tail" of women left behind that were utterly destroyed: Did he ever tell them he loved them? That they were the only one? That he would be with them forever? Those were probably assumptions that they made on their own. Very dangerous assumptions that left them hurt and broken.

Let that be a lesson to anyone. Never assume anything about anyone.

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Lol i personally think many girls should watch more female educational movies like: hes just not that into you. As I have told a guy friend of mine: girls need to learn that sometimes they are just not the exceptional. To which the friend replied: guys sometimes need to take honour lessons. which I agree as I do want an old school guy who wants to spend time to get to know me as a person instead of rushing to bed me

A lot of people, guys or girls, although already knew what their dates/partners want, still fall for them or get too involved hoping they are gonna convert the partners. I guess the other person should take caution not to date people with different perspects. Eg, for a serial dater to date someone knowing that person wants a serious relationship. I always reject guys who are having false hopes of what I can give, or at least not get too invloved with them

I'd have to say if I had this guy in front of me I'd shake his hand and tell him good job because he did alot right.

1) he took initiative to find a way to get a response

2) he took action

3) when he got called on a canned line (or objection as they say in sales) he kept his cool and handled it smoothly.

The big thing is he got a response, and when he handled the objection the girl then researched it further coming to the forum talking about "desperation". The fact that she put so much work into trying to say she wasn't interested speaks volumes.

It wouldn't surprise me if she doesn't end up spending some time with him in the future, he certanly made an impression.

Yes a strong impression indeed, but as a pathetic guy and his failed story was circulated among my girlfriends

I mentioned also that since then I went on ignoring his text. And would under no circumstances go out with him

Elise

I'm curious, you mention 3 guys in this thread, how many have you dated or been involved with?

Do you consider yourself a female PUA?

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