I just started this OKCupid thing. First e-dating website for me. I messaged a cutie this.

Me: Finally a girl who didn't write an essay about herself. Dig the profile. Any crazy plans this week?

She didn't reply. So I replied again.

Me: I seen that you visited my profile but didn't reply. From a females perspective... what should I change about my profile?

Her: It wasn't really you or your profile. Ha you just aren't really my type. You know, the whole it's not you it's me kinda deal. Good luck, though.

I have a lot of C&F on my profile. I mean damn... this is my profile pic:

*EDITED OUT PIC. IT WAS JUST A PIC OF MY ABS*

Anyways, I was thinking of replying back to her C&F.

Me: Hmm. Based on my experience, lots of girls are my type. You might want to double check on that lol

But IDK, I'm a noob at e-dating. Help me out.

You don't say anything back.

She told you that she isn't interested. She was trying to be polite to you by saying you aren't her type. She will be less polite if you keep bothering her.

Leave her alone.


Edit: Not to mention your initial message to her was weak. And girls don't want to see pics of your abs; it makes you look like a try-hard.

You know what. I think the best idea is to mirror these chicks during the beginning of messages. I'ma reply to her.

"So you're actually one of those chicks who are conceited for no reason. Forget me ever messaging you. This won't work out"

I just copied and pasted that message from some other e-pua-guru.

What's a good opener?

get ready to vote for me, i am going to give you the best advice that you are ever gonna get.
You lost the frame war. This fucking chick started shit testing right away,"you are not my time blah blah blah" dont you see something here?
She successfully set a beta frame on you and you buckled under that. Results? You proved to be a beta and she lost interest.
Remember girls on the dating sites have their bitch sheilds up because they have to be fast, they want a guy and there are so many to chose from. Makes sense?
The interaction you had needed two elements to move forward
1. Reframing
to flip her frame around and to make it her problem.
2. Emotional sparks
to get her emotional because when girls are emotional, they just talk, talk, talk, bitches. So thats what you needed.
But you had very little time to do it (i am talking about the interaction that you were in that moment, not abt texting later)
so now you have to hit two birds with one stone. Lets see how we do it
her,"you are not my type blah blah blah"
you,"why do you need to say like that brat? Are you crazy? Or you think you are miss world?"
her,"blah blah blah"
got it? Reframe and mess with her. After a minute or two pace and lead, "yeah, i may have blah blah problem but right now we are talking about your problem. Anyways, tell me...."
and right back into normal gaming

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Good shit khuram. I just wished you had better grammar.

Now I'm being complete dicks to girl when I open. Harsh negs. I'm actually getting responses back.

- Kobe Bryant

Khuram. You should elaborate more on frame transitioning. When I do it, it feels like you're in a car and you bust out a U Turn.

I want it to be so smooth that it's unoticable for the female.

uhhh, yea bro she just pimp-slapped you, lol. Picture of the abs is def a no-go, face w/ smile and friends? def a go! Stylish clothes that represent your own style. Make sure you have "adventure" and "spontaneous" mentioned somewhere in ur profile

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"Will I regret not doing this? Yup... Guess I gotta do it then."

here is the model
fight-make it funny-transition to comfort-break rapport-attraction
inshort, you start the fight and pick something out of converstaion that both of you can laugh about(it difuses the negative tenstion caused by the fight) then you transition to comfort and after she is comfortable talking to you, you break rapport and start builing attraction and then game as normal

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Hmm I'll try it. Before no girls would message me back. Now I'm negging and controlling the frame, and all these girls are messaging me back. Like every single one of them almost. Problem is I can control the frame, but I can't transition it to attraction comfort etc smoothly. I'll work on what you said.

If you have any examples doing this, you should post so I can take notes.