No, not at all; I really shouldn't have mentioned anything about the rejection and only forcused on my main message (energy/return) so I can see how it might read to some people.

The rejection part is really a minor nuisance and an annoyance, but wasn't really the message.

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Wow I read that entire profile and got nothing useful.I have fucked plenty of women off of plenty of fish.Not all Hb10 but average to good looking.The thing with plenty of fish is numbers and your profile.If you message enough you will get to meet women.My experience has been out of all the chicks I have met on there I have fucked everyone first night.So it is worth your time because the women on there are gullible,socially inept,or just plain lonely.My advice if you become emotional because a j/peg won't message you back.Work on controlling your emotion.Because I know for sure if you can't controll it on the computer screen.I know in real life your game is shit..

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Sidnne6 is just a dumbshit who's just intent on making a case that guys just get their feeling hurt from being rejected, and are emotionally distraught little pussies, rather than just acknowledge the obvious:

Sometimes when people want to avoid rejection, ya know, it really is about:

"Hmmm why am I being rejected so much? Maybe I need to look at the situations I put myself in, that might be contributing to this, and change it up a little, and seek *new* situtions?"

Not liking rejection isn't necessarely about being distraught that the girl said "No."

If you're a PUA, you want to PULL. You want to avoid rejection as much as possible, so that you're successful, and you pull, right?

I tried to explain, but this dumbass wants to just call people pussies rather that just note, "Okay, his approach is different; if he finds he's wasting a lot of time, he seeks better situations and opportunities."

Like I said before, tweaking and customizing your profile/messages still might prove to be a waste of time if you're spending weeks at it, with little return.

Being in real-life situations where you get more "Yes'" just from the nature of it, rather than rapid-fire rejections, is way better for helping tweak and customize your game, than wasting time online.

And I'm advovating *real game* AS OPPOSED to online. Isn't that thought of as "harder?" Aren't you putting yourself out there even more in real game? That kind of blows a hole in your "pussy" argument.

It's amazing to me how some people think that aspiring PUA's are just little pussies for wanting to avoid rejection, and don't realize that it's actually about aiming for SUCCESS instead. God forbid we be successful.

What a dipshit!

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Sounds like somebody got his feelings hurt so bad that he had to respond to the same post twice.

At no point did I call anyone a name. You did that.

I hope you get your insecurities handled.

I posted my response once, as you can clearly see above.

This guy isn't contributing anything to the conversation. He just wants to call people insecure and make sure he gets the last word, without addressing responses, sort of like a drive-by.

If you want to play in a better field where you make more progress and get more feedback/experince rather than just get silent rejections, you're called "insecure" or "afraid of rejection."

Nice logic. And in your next comeback, don't forget to call me insecure.

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You posted two different responses to the same post, as you can clearly see above.

And I'm not here to make comebacks, because I'm not arguing with anyone.

I didn't address your "response" because there was nothing worth addressing. Do you really expect me to get into a childish name-calling exchange with you?

I didn't call you insecure. I said you have insecurities, which you display with each of your posts.

PUA, despite being called "pick up," is not necessarily about picking up women. It's more about picking up yourself. The most critical aspect of PUA is the inner game; improving oneself and making oneself a stronger, more confident person who is better able to interact not only with women, but with everyone around him.

PUA is a form of self-help. Meeting women is not the objective, but rather a side-effect. This forum is full of people who are seeking to better themselves and enrich their lives, so that they can make friends, meet women, and succeed in whatever endeavors they partake. You'll see a lot of people asking "what did I do wrong?" And oftentimes the answer to that question is "You are displaying insecurities and need to work on your inner game." If you take that as an insult, rather than as feedback, then there isn't much that anyone here can do for you.

The fact is, I'm not trying to insult you when I say that you have insecurities or you are quitting, or you fear rejection. I'm trying to help you. Because, no matter how you try to justify your reasons for abandoning online game, you are robbing yourself of an opportunity to improve yourself, and thus missing the basis of PUA.

It seems like you're trying to skip the inner game aspect of PUA and just find an easy avenue to meet women. Sure, you can do that. You can fake it and land some ONS and short-term dating. But, all of your relationships, whether they are romantic, social, business, etc. are going to suffer.

So, for your own sake, I really and truly do hope that you get your insecurities handled.

he said she said lol can't believe you guys are acting like this...

Ok for all the guys that are pissed off at girls online PM me I will give you a line to deliver to her, that'll crush her ego and bring her tumbling down.

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Try this:


"So, obviously you passed the aesthetics test or shallow men (such as myself) would never contact you, but a buddy of mine was looking over my shoulder and claimed that – without a doubt – your profile looked to have been written by a guy; it’s just too perfect, minus the incompletion. He claimed that any account with so little information is a dead giveaway. I came to your defense, of course, but now we’ve got a $20 bet going as to whether or not you’re real. So I wondered, just between us, am I about to lose $20?"

I msg'd this chick the other day on pof (asian girl) asking if she was a tranny.

Few minutes later her 2 friends jumped on me; one had a massive beak, I called her Tucan Sam, the other was so hideous she looked like she belonged in cirque de soleil. I grilled them both hard, they kept coming at me finally my account was deleted...

that is, till I created a new one the next day.

GOLDEN, best response rate I've gotten so far. What do you usually say once they respond? Just take it as normal from there?

Honestly. I believe the vast majority of girls that go on dating sites do so for validation purposes only. To feel wanted. I believe they enjoy the thrill of attaining attention rather then the risk involved in potentially engaging ? If that makes sense. Just trying to shed my belief on the issue to perhaps enhance understanding.

Dropping my two cents.

I gave in to trying online a few months ago. Its rough. Way tougher than real life, such surprised me. Any woman on the site, you can add +2 to their hotness rating.

An HB 5 is sudden an HB 7. HB 10s have surpassed perfection online and have become almost unobtainable.

I also go to college in a very small town, thus I thought it would be impossible using the free sites okcupid and plenty of fish. At first, I was getting nothing, no responses to dozen of messages.

Then I used canned openers, either from gurus or from people online. That raised my response rate to 10%.

Then finally before I stopped trying a few weeks ago, my response rate was around 25% when I started sending personalized messages using my own personal humor and non caring attitude.

I still have never gotten a date from online. Either the woman stops talking to me after the first response, or I've gotten many women attracted to ask for their number or contact info and watch as all the attraction disappears and they don't contact me again.

But I still consider it a success. I'm a newbie at seduction, and quite plainly I have alot of inner game issues to work on. If someone any better than me tried the exact same tactics I use, I'm sure they could turn them into a 50% response rate and lays. My personal weakness is closing however, so that's probably why I have trouble getting dates on there.

It is amusing though knowing these women are getting hundreds of messages a week and knowing I'm one of the only ones who got responded to and I practically have no idea what I'm doing.

Oh I'll get dates, and a number of them with pretty decent looking girls too, but no second dates. That's where my whole tirade about "Serial first daters" came from, that I got a lot of shit for (mainly from newbies who're like, "Awww man!!! That's awesome, that still gets you to the date!!!")

I found so many of these girls are going on dozens of 1st dates every month. One doctor I went out on one date with ---- match.com WAS her social life. She'd work, maybe drinks with the girls once a week, and 1st dates from match.com.

But I'm working on something killer right now that's getting me a stupidly high response rate; now all's left is to convert those over...

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Nice, hopefully it'll be something you will be willing to share when you are done tweaking it.

hhmmmm are you using my crusher line? How about updates? Start a new topic and keep your journal

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