A girl i havnt talked to in years found me on myspace. I KNOW she was into me back in the day, and was trying to work it with her as an AFC but didnt know hoe to get over last min resistance then. Now she has msg'd me on myspace after years of being out of contact....here it goes...
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From: melissa
Date: Nov 15, 2007 12:33 AM


hey i am pretty sure you're the colin i went to high school with. george washington? well this is melissa. if i have the wrong person you can just ignore this.
-melissa

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From: Colin
Date: Nov 15, 2007 10:55 AM


I could just ignore it either way, but that would be mean
Yes it is the one and only Colin from GWHS, how have you been?

Nice to see ya, since i made my page a few weeks back i have been getting all kinds of messages from people i havnt seen forever. Its cool to hear from everyone.

TTYL

-Colin-

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From: melissa

i'm pretty good. yea we should catch up sometime. if ya want i can give you my number. hope everythings good with you.
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Those were all private messages, im thinking i should not respond to here last message for a while, like a day maybe. I also noticed the time stamps are all fucked up. I rearanged the messages so that they are in order from first msg to last. Still the time stamps are weird.

Also i did make this comment on here comments section.

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Hey sup? Long time no see. Glad you found me, we should catch up sometime. Zac is getting married in 2 months can you believe it? Catch ya later

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Zac was a mutual friend who we both knew.

In anycase i think i have been doing ok so far, what i wana do is not come accross as needy or wanting anything from her. I just would like to seperate from e-game and get her out somewere live. Suggestions are welcome as well as critisism. Thanks guys.

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just received this message after not responding right away

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well if you ever want to give me a call my number is xxx-xxx-xxxx. well i guess i'll catch up with you soon. bye.
-melissa
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I am thinking this is a good thing? So i guess i should wait the usual 2-3 days before i call her? Then after talking a bit setup a event were she can meet me there if she likes? If she brings her bf (i know i dont care that she has one), how do i take that, is that instant LJBF?

Thanks guys

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-Ka-
"Be the same, only better."

You're Right; Give it a day and swap phone numbers. Sounds like you're on the right path Ka! Doesn't look like it's going to be too hard to setup a date. DHV and have a good time!

J SMOOTH

give her a call, make her laugh, timebridge to a "date", do your thing, f-close your old fling! (I should be a poet)

Hey man. Looks like she is ALREADY practically throwing herself at you again. Does she have a b/f? Well, no I WOULDN'T wait the "usual 2-3 days" to contact her. Sure, this girl wouldn't actually get cold in that length of time, but she's already acting like she's thinking "oh boy, I've got to see him again". She already gave you her number w/o waiting for you to ask for it, once she asked if you wanted it.

What I would do is give her a quick call, tell her something you're doing somewhere that she can meet up with you and have a good time, and act like the whole thing is really no big deal, because it shouldn't be anyway.

In other words, something like . . . "Hey Melissa. This is Colin. Good to hear from you again. I'm going to be x place at y time. Meet me there so we can catch up." I wouldn't say much more than that. You can do all the talking, flirting, kinoing when you meet up in person. Even if she does have a b/f, at this point, I COULD be wrong, but it doesn't sound like it would be hard to blow him out. Unless you don't want that . . .

Doc, leave the poetry to the, well, poets . . . lol, j/k man.

Awsome guys thanks. yea myspace is practiclly opening for me, i musta done a decent job at setting it up. This is the second chick in 2 days, other one is kinda weird in that its my old best friend from HS.

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From:
Date: Nov 13, 2007 8:29 PM


Colin this is Shante. You need to call me. I miss you and I lost your number. CALL ME. You better had not forgot me. XXX.XXX.XXXX. Leave a message if you don't get me. You look sexy boy!!!

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From: Colin
Date: Nov 14, 2007 5:30 AM


Hey, yea things have been crazy for me. Didnt expect to see ya on here, but then again i been seeing alot of people on here that i havnt seen for a long time. Ill try and toss you a ring like thursday or this weekend.

Im in the middle of working and looking to buy a buisness, so i havent had much free time lately.

ttyl

-Colin-

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From:

I just got a page because I was bored and my little cousin wanted to design my page. But I look forward to hearing from you.
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To make matters worse for this one, aside from having been my best friend, she has 2 kids...i can get over the friends thing, and i can even get past a bf or maybe even husband...but i cant deal with the children.

Thanks again guys, ill give this girl a call, first i gotta make plans lol.

Also she does have a bf, what do i do if he comes along, just game her anyway after becomming buddies with him?


Edited out personal information (phone number)- The Doctor

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-Ka-
"Be the same, only better."

You shouldn't let the children be an issue either. If you can deal with everything else, just realize that she has responsibility for the children and don't hold that against her. You SHOULDN'T be involved in their life anyway at this point.

Yep, I would just game her.

Well i waited til tonight to call the first girl i posted about.

I made it short and to the point, however i probably had a hint of AFC'ness in the convo.

I called

ME: "Hey Melissa, its Colin."

HER: "HEY! how are you?"

ME: "Im great and yourself?"

HER: "blah blah"

ME: "Great, look im going out with some friends saturday night, you should come out if you like."

HER: "O, uh yea i might be able to."

ME: "Ok cool, im not sure were but it will probably be in olde city (an upscale section of philly with alot of bars), when i know ill call you."

HER: "OK."

ME: "Aight well i gotta go just wanted to get in touch and see if you could come out to catch up, ill talk to ya later."

And that was it...i feel like i might have talked too fast, but not hyper fast, also some of the content was AFC, like me saying she shouold come out if she likes.

All in all im happy, as for the other girl....ahh idk if i can get over the kids thing, especially in combo with the whole used to be best friends thing. Maybe shes just happy to have gotten in contact with me again, who knows, but i think the message wasnt exactly nuetral.

Ill find out ill probably call her tommorrow, problem is i have obligations on saturday and sunday now. Friday i am not sure of and dont wana call her on the same day as the "plans" to meet her.

Honestly im not sure i wana even get back in touch with her, unless she has changed in appearence i never found her attractive (or ugly). O well maybe i should just do it lol.

Thanks guys ttyl.

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-Ka-
"Be the same, only better."

I had to read all of that twice to figure it all out.

First girl:

Great opening response. The rest that followed was good. Expessing joy at her response but not directed at her, classic.

Your message post was good except for the 'Glad you found me' part. Read them again and take that part out and you will see why.

It was not the time frame that was the most important, it was the information that was conveyed with the phone call.

The first phone call should have been short and not conveyed interest in it.

Two topics that could have been discussed.
Something funny that she did before or was involved with that you know about (Something she would think is funny)

Possibly: After I got your message, I remebered that time that guy fell down and got that girl all messy with his food. Do you remember that. blah, blah (or some other random possible story)

And then something funny that you remember about yourself that she would know about....

It would be better with her story first and then yours.

Tell her you have to go and end the phone call. Tell her you will talk to her later.

Couple days later, call her, talk about something about before, tell her you are going to be somewhere and invite her to join. Tell her it would be fun talking about past times in person.

When you called her the first time and asked her to join, she threw up defenses.'might be able to'.
Was there more? That is pretty weak response from being invited somewhere. A 'I want to but I can't' and then an offer for a different time would be better.

If there was not more it was because you showed to much interest with inviting her out in four sentences.......

(Where is the part about a boyfriend?)


"you should come out if you like"
You already know about this. Tell her she is welcome to join.

The second girl:

She was your best friend? Go out with her and have fun. You do not need to game every girl.

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Recommended reading list.

Double Your Dating by DD
(This will work on your inner game)

http://www.freewebs.com/xfman/
(This will work on your outer game)

Ka, there was some AFC stuff in there, but you're growing, so that's important.

Dude i agree with you 110%. Everything you said was on the dot. You took it deeper then i did. Your right i should have had a conversation with her, held the frame, and showed some humor. I honsetly slightly panicked and like i said the whole thing might have been AFC'ish.

As for my e-game i thought it went very well, especially when i didnt respond when she wanted to give me her number.

However i lost my cool getting on the phone.

With my old best friend, your right of course. What scares me though was the aggressiveness of her message. Her message and her page come accross extremely desprite, and i like a challenge. I think i will meet with her after some talking over myspace, and keep it kinda in between game and friends. If i get the impression that she is intrested in being more then friends and after meeting her i decide thats what i want, ill step it up. If i wana keep it friends ill cool her off and be straight with her about it.

Right now ima try and handle the 1st girl. What do you guys think about canceling my plans and then going phone conversation? Is this a good direction to go in? Or should i stick to my plans, call her with details, go there and if she shows run game?

IMO i am now seeing the show of intrest this is displaying and am leaning towards calling her maybe saturday (while im out with my pivot buying clothes) to cancel, then have a short convo with her and then later call for a second round and eventually get to inviting her to join up with me at x place y time.

Thanks guys ttyl

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-Ka-
"Be the same, only better."

Personally, I would GO with the plans. Then, if she is really into you, she will probably call you Saturday anyway, or message you, and you can then tell her your out with someone else at the moment. Takes care of both things that way. If she has a great time out with you, her attraction will be amped up, then if she finds out you're out with someone else the next day, the jealousy factor will start kicking in, thus benefiting you more there too.

Hmm, im a little lost LA. I will be shopping on saturday with my best friends wife. I made the plans for saturday night. Originally i was thinking i could shop during the day go out at night.

Now in wanting to correct any AFC mistakes i made im considering calling my target saturday while shopping (or better yet responding to her if she inquires), and telling her i cannot make it...convo with her a little like someone suggested, and also convey that i am out with a friend as social proof.

Then pick up the convo with her like a day or so later and game over the phone then invite her out with my friends later in a more PUA way.

Should i go that route or just go out with her that evening like i had planned.

Also i was vague with my plans because i dont really have anything solid yet. I was working on getting a few friends out before this but have nothing solid planned as of yet. This could turn bad if my friends dunt/cant go out as i A) wouldnt have a ride and B) even if i get there it would appear like i said i was going out with friends but was only meeting her there....

So let me know what you think guys, thx

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-Ka-
"Be the same, only better."

Ok, sorry man if I wasn't clear earlier. My mind was a little muddied with some other crap. Anyway, my suggestion was to go ahead and stick with the plans of taking the girl out tomorrow instead of cancelling. You need to think of something that you could do ALONE and have fun that you could also do and have with her. Don't depend on your friends if they are that flaky. Then you invite her along for that. You BOTH have a great time, because you're a great guy to be with. Then, on Saturday, you keep those plans also. Go out with your best friends wife. If this girl had a good enough time with you on Friday, the chances are pretty good that she will contact you in some way on Saturday, at which time you can tell her that you're with another woman. She doesn't have to know there's nothing going on with the other woman. Let the jealousy factor kick in, which will in effect amp up her attraction to you even more than you amp it up tomorrow night.

Also, if you don't want girls to flake on you, don't flake on them. That's how I would see tomorrow if you cancel. How could you put your foot down with a girl about flaking if you do it or have done it with her. See what I'm saying?

So, that's what I was trying to get across.

BTW, don't know if it will help you any, but check out my latest field report man. Maybe you can pick up something from it that could help you. It's called Thong Thursday.

Aight cool ill check out your FR.

Also just to be completely clear i have no plans Fri night.

Saturday durning the day i planned on shopping with friends wife, saturday night was plans to meet with friends and invite this target along. I was confused because you kept tlaking about friday night. I think i wasnt clear on the time line. Does this change your opinion or should i still keep my plans with her?

Thanks again, ttyl

-Ka-

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-Ka-
"Be the same, only better."