hello everyone
just have a quick newbie question. i am very new to this SS. i've watched a lot ross jeffries materials and read a lot of material related to Speed seduction/nlp.
I was just wondering how do you get infield practice. My question to all the MPUA's or anyone else using SS/nlp technique out there is

1) when they first started out. Did you go out to sarge and started running the patterns on Hbs?. It just sounds weired. I am just trying to practice a little by little. like work on my tonality, start incorporating stories in my converstion.Practice using some hot words etc etc.
2)
Ps: i've realised that you have to have some sort of comfort already built in order to introduce the pattern in the conversation. Does that mean i have to master some other pickup method(e.g MM) and then start out with NLP/ss stuff.


Considering the fact that i have very few friends and close acquaintance.
Can someone please tell me how did they started. Who to practice on. I really wanna get good at this stuff. Any help would be appriciated.
Thanks in advance

I'm also looking for an answer to this question. I recently started learning the Milton Model of conversation and I'm wondering how others began using it. I simply plan on consciously using it in my conversations and writing out the examples in my NLP notebook. I'm also reading the book NLP: The New Technology of Achievement; at this point I'm not really planning on using it for SS specifically, but simply as a way to gain rapport with people I meet.

Any advice is welcome guys, and thank you.

i know what NLp is...watched some vids off youtube etc...same with ericsonian hypnosis...
Obama uses that shit...
And Obama is a great example
Heres why
He managed to get elected...a big f close on the USA
However eventually people come around and see reality once again...and wake up
this is how nlp and hypnosis tricks work
they are useful in pulling women but unless you close that night..the next day alot of women flake as the pimpnosis has worn off.
just my 2cents worth
and just for the record...
If you use KINO..your actually using NLP..as its the same shit..
Its actually called anchoring a state in NLP...and its same thing in hypnosis
seduction is really hypnosis
i figured out all these things are really the same thing years ago..just people call em all different names and think they are the ones who discovered these techniques...
eventually it comes naturally.
in life there are two roads...the one where you dont care when it comes to expressing yourself and the road where u read books to learn how to express yourself.
all the books will do is tell you in a very complicated and drawn out and expensive way...to not fucking care. i mean even mystery method..go out and dress like a complete tool...did people really not know this shit got attention from women already...have you never seen how a pimp dresses????yet mystery discovered this did he...hahaha..all peackocing demonstartes to women is that you got big balls and a lot of confidence...and confidence attracts women...duh...
do you think a street pimp with a stable of hoes got a phd in phsycology? No.

No, sorry, hypnosis and NLP are not the same thing. They can join forces and compliment one another but they are different things.

And sorry to disappoint but it's not a "trick that works on someone". It's never been about control. It's about communication and connection. You can't control someone with it and if you think you need that stuff to control women in order for them to like you then there's one heck of a whole in your self esteem.

Obama is/was a great public speaker. But he doesn't control anyone. Yes, he got elected. But in terms of popular vote it was a close call. Now, if he was controlling people through some hypnosis or NLP trick then you'd have thought it would not have been close in popular vote (I am aware it's not decided on popular vote but popular vote would be more of an expression of popularity than the electoral college would be).

You use hypnosis and NLP in communication and connection.

ok....

Thank you for commenting, but you're kinda missing the point. My friend and I want to know how anyone here who used SS (Milton Model for me) began practicing it. The more I reread your comments, the more I wonder if you read our questions. We know what it is, we've done our homework, and we want some wisdom from others who have been where we are. Answering honest questions with flame just makes the comments seem silly doesn't it?

So again, thank you for commenting, and if you have experience using NLP, then help us newbies out.

CH*

No.

anyone??

How you guys doing? I'll try to actually answer your questions and I hope I can be helpful.

One. I personally started using NLP for sales and business before I used it for my personal life. However, there is nothing like just going out there, and giving it a whirl. Go out there with the idea that you're invested in your skills and your interested in the girl, instead of vice-versa. I go out, and I see a pretty girl, and I say, Hi. You'd be amazed at how many people will respond back. And, there are many ready made patterns for introductions.

Two: Do you need to have another method of seduction. Yes and No. SS is it's own system of seduction, it teaches you openers, escalation, and eventually closing. NLP is not a seduction system, it is a form of communication, if you know how to communicate with people, then you don't really have to worry about using a seduction system, if you do not know how to communicate well with people, then, I recommend Logan Edwards two books, which in my opinion are the best works in the pick-up industry that are mainstream.

But, don't over think it, and don't rely heavily on the hypnotic aspects of NLP or SS, this is coming from someone who loves these aspects, and uses them when I'm talking to people, just to use them. Also, to someone whose never really gotten a girl without using them. What I mean to say is that Conversational Hypnosis, and Hypnotic Patterns are supposed to be natural, come out easily.

Also, SS complicates hypnotic patterning a great deal. In reality, Imagine, is a hypnotic pattern, If you could, is a hypnotic pattern, Because, is a hypnotic pattern. Hypnotic language is incredibly powerful, everyone including Mystery does it, because communication is by its nature powerful. What you learn with NLP and SS is the power of context and intent. If you don't worry about it, you'll have a few bumpy roads when you make a mistake, or become too obvious, laugh it off, tell her it happens in the presence of beautiful women, and try a different pattern.

thank guys for your comment