Hey guys, I've made some progress with the shy chick I've been telling you about. Finally K-closed on date #3 (I know, but better late than ever lol). She wants me to go to this bar near her place to hear a band play this friday. I told her that I would go, she is going there straight from work and I'm meeting her and her friends there!

Here lies the questions haha, do you guys have any suggestions on how I should handle meeting her friends for the first time? I really want to make a good impression because I know if her friends don't like you, then her interest in you is going to be distorted. Could you help me out with some good openers for the set, routines, examples of DHV, etc.

I'm a pretty social guy, it's not like I'm going to have major trouble getting along with people, usually people warm up to me quick, I just want to make a good first impression. As always, thanks for your help guys!

Hmmmm, although that is an IOI, it sounds like you're not controlling the frame. Well, if you're a social guy and make friends with others easily, then just be yourself around her friends. Are these friends male, female, or mixed? How many are there?

She's shy . . . yet has a group of friends, and . . . does she "know" this band?

It will be a mixed set, one guy and his wife and one other girlfriend of hers. No, she doesn't "know" the band that we are seeing, it's just a local rock band. She is not extremely shy, I should have been more clear about that haha. She just seems shy about certain things, like the other night I was at her place watching a movie with her and we were on the couch. She was sitting next to me but not closing the distance lol. I really didn't know what to say that would'nt make me sound like a tool haha. When it was time for me to go after we talked for awhile, I just straight up told her that I wanted to kiss her lol. We hugged and I looked her in the eyes and said "I want to kiss you, is that alright?". She said yes and we kissed and I said goodnight, went pretty well I think.

I just know what her friends are gonna be hawking me haha. They already know each other and I'm an outsider coming into their group. I just wanted to see if there was any funny routines or convo's that somebody has used that worked well in a mixed set.

Have you ever read MM? I think you would find it quite helpfull. 90%+/- of the time if a girl is comfortable enough with you to bounce/timebridge to a location with such proximity to a seduction location (Her couch->Her Bed) She's at a level where you should be able to comfort build and kino escelate to an F-close.

I think you worrying to much my friend... Her friends will love you... because your an awesome, fun, social guy! And she obviously digs you alot more then your giving her credit for... Just take a breath, because it'll work out fine... if you just act like the great guy that you are.

Thanks man! Your right, I'm putting way too much pressure on myself. Yes, I have read MM, as a matter of fact I just got done reading it a couple days ago haha. I'll see how things go and I'll let you guys know what happens, take care guys!

I'd say you're in good with her, keep doing what you've been doing, get more kino, and give more commands---even if it's as simple as "here, take a picture of me (insert reason)" with a camera phone.

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BIG point here. you asked her permission to kiss her. Precedent. who asks who for permission? Not very 'I'm the prize' mentality. start changing this right away or your going to be wearing a dress. Roads has a great start for you

Hey guys, I guess something went way wrong with this chick...I got this email this morning..we were supposed to go out tonight, I was going to meet her friends. Sucks because I did like her but life goes on lol. Her is what she emailed me.

Hey

I got your message and i'm sorry i didn't get a chance to call you back!

I am not quite sure if this is the best medium to be talking about this, but its all i got so i appologize it advance if it seems tacky. I wanted to actually talk to you about it yesterday but i just got so overwhelmed with unpacking and grading that it was 11 before i even realized it. My life is pretty crazy right now with the whole condo thing, two jobs thing and just trying to get everything in order. And i dont know where things with us were going, but I do know that i dont want to hurt you. I really like you and thats the last thing i want to do. However, the timing is just not right. I can barely take care of myself and manage to get 6 hours of sleep. I just have too much going on to try and persue something with you. And that sucks! I should have realized it sooner, but i have been having such a good time with you that I wasn't ready to admit that i couldn't do it.

I wish i had met you in a few months, once my life had returned to normal. I've never been this stressed or this overworked or this tired and i just dont think now is the time to get involved in anything. I know its a cliche, but it truly is not you, its me. I wanted to be able to make it all work, but i just can't. And its not fair to you.

I hope you understand and dont hate me!

Hope your new job goes well and you have a nice thanksgiving!

Michelle

Here is what I emailed back:

Hey! Well, that is a bummer because I did like you. It is kinda wierd talking about this over email....But, you have to do what you think is right for you. I really had fun with you and I wish that you had time to give it a try and see where things went. I hope you have fun at PJ Skidoos tonight! I also hope that you have a great life and a awesome Thanksgiving! I don't hate you : ) if you do change your mind definitly give me a call. It was nice meeting you, your a great person!

-Nick-

Have any ideas about this?? I'm completely stumped! I thought things were going really well. Oh! Well plenty more chicks out there. Who knows, maybe she'll call me back when she gets her shit together.

thats the best advice you can get. If they like you then they like you if they dont then they dont. Dont worry to much about what her friends think about you. If you build enought connection with your target then your GOOD. BEYOURSELF. you dont need to learn any routines,neg and cf because you know what you already have it. Now go out there and remember your target is already actracted to you. So all you got to do is not to mess that up hahah you might hear that line from HITCH but its true my dude. Artist

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OUUCCHHHH. Well, you're doing the best thing, by moving on.

Hell, you could go on to that venue tonight and game some other girls. There will be others there. That's what I would do, but that's me. I've done that very thing before, had other chicks and gamed other chicks right in front of one that turned me away.