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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2011 6:53 pm 
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There is this very hot and sweet girl from school I'm gaming for weeks now, but was never able to get a date. Tomorrow, the 2 of us are working on a project and I'm gonna be at her home. We have to watch a movie and do a presentation about it.
So, any advice? I'm really not good at kino and since we will be sitting there with our notepads, kino would be even weirder.
I pretty sure I've build attraction, so I need to connect with her more, because I only talk to her at school. I use pretty good text game with her tough, and sometimes we talk on the phone, but mostly about school stuff.

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Build up the tension by slowing down your speech a little, and try not to talk about school. By the way, even when talking about SCHOOL, you can build attraction. Hold strong eye contact and speak slower than usual when you do that.

Also, if you wanna start kino, better go sit close to her when you sit in the couch.

Take it from there, start some minor kinoing, and if you notice she's uncomfortable:
Rinse, repeat.

If you keep noticing she's uncomfortable, drop it.

If she's not: lucky you, continue escalating the kino.

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I reckon when you are there you should do what this HB did on me once. I was reading something interesting and she went "oh whats that" and came right in close inches away from my face and started reading what I was reading when she turned and looked at me her hair was covering her eyes so I brushed it behind her ear and then you're in my friend.

-Get in close and act Normal like nothing is wrong
-turn to her and if she doesn't move away you're nearly there
- Even if her hair isn't over her eyes girls love their hair so just push it behind her ears or out of her face
- Give it a shot, if she rejects you just go back to studying and finishing your project

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Kino is part of the game my friend. I don't know what you mean by "I'm not good with Kino" but when a girl is ready to be Kino escalated it's our job as a PUA to comply with that.


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Build up the tension by slowing down your speech a little, and try not to talk about school. By the way, even when talking about SCHOOL, you can build attraction. Hold strong eye contact and speak slower than usual when you do that.
Simple enough. I will do that.

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I reckon when you are there you should do what this HB did on me once ...

-Get in close and act Normal like nothing is wrong
-turn to her and if she doesn't move away you're nearly there
- Even if her hair isn't over her eyes girls love their hair so just push it behind her ears or out of her face
- Give it a shot, if she rejects you just go back to studying and finishing your project
Sounds good. So, would you say, when something goes wrong, I just act like nothing happend and go nack to studying?
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Kino is part of the game my friend. I don't know what you mean by "I'm not good with Kino" but when a girl is ready to be Kino escalated it's our job as a PUA to comply with that.
I am fairly new to pickup and I never was a touchy guy, so for me it still is not natural. I recognize it everytime I go out, that I don't kino enough or sometimes at all.

Back to this girl: We sit togehter in some classes and I kino her there, light touches on the arm and the leg, but only a little, since it is in school. So she should at least be comfortable with me touching her in the "normal" places.

Thx you guys! More advice ist very welcome.

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Just wanna post this link: http://www.vindicarlo.com/DiCarlo%20Esc ... lo.com.pdf

Everything on there is great stuff.
Also, if you're not comfortable with touching, that means your inner game isn't all that great yet. Focus to get your inner game right, eveything will come more naturally to you.

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Just wanna post this link:
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Also, if you're not comfortable with touching, that means your inner game isn't all that great yet. Focus to get your inner game right, eveything will come more naturally to you.
The inner game and I ... we don't always see eye to eye, but I am working on that stuff. It's just not that easy to change a behaviour you had all your life.


But, here's an update:

It didn't go at all. She was supposed to call me, when she gets off work to tell me, when she will be home. She didn't call or write, I didn't either.

So, any advice on how to handle this situation?

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You should neg and teaser for not calling you at all, otherwise you look as an Low value male and you don't want that if you ever get or want to fuck her, because that was a sign of IOD that she did by not even texting you or letting you know about why you guys are not meeting. She might be testing you and throwing some shit test. after negging her then wait for a response, Look for a IOD or IOI's on her after the neg.

Indicator of Desinterest = IOD or IOI =Indicator of Interest.

Look for those two actionsafteryou NEG her for not calling you or flaking on the date....

NEG her then Look for the IOD or IOI from her. If she IOI then you IOI and qualify her... even though you have met her for a long time to know where you are in the game. It is very important where you stand in the Game in what phase you are...

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Okay,

I am late to this post, but I feel your situation (as many others') will be repeated over and over. Since you are in a quiet place, this particular mid game play will work, especially if the girl has even a tiny bit of cerebral cortex.

Here is what you do.....

YOU: "Okay, we have known each other for a long time (if 5 mins it is funny go with it) but it seems like we REALLY don't know each other..

HER: Yeahh....so?

YOU: Well let's tell each other something about ourselves that no one else knows

HER: Hmmm...lol...okay..hmmm...blah blah blah blah blah

YOU: I can look into someone's soul and tell them the essence of their being...

HER: NO WAY....like...OMG! NO YOU CAN'T!!!

YOU: (kino on arm) trust me.....I CAN! (insert impish smile here)

HER: Yeah...well...prove it"

YOU: Go into CUBE GAME....this is a can't miss....especially if you are reading her body language as you explain to her the imagery of what she just told u....

IF you want to seal the deall....at this point....you tell her that you think that the both of you share an ASTRAL PLANE (chicks love this romantic random intersecting stuff...they will want sex because they think it was pre-ordained..hence out of their control!!!)

YOU: I think we may be in an intersecting ASTRAL PLANE...should we see???

HER: What is an ASTRAL PLANE?

YOU: It is that once in a lifetime intersection of life, time and destiny. That feeling you get that you may have slipped by in the past....a mistake you will never make again (insert 3 pt eye contact here...eye...lip...eye)

HER: Sure...ok

YOU: This is where you do MYSERY'S TILTING STRAW MOVE...

HER: OH>>>>>>MY>>>>>GOD>>>>

YOU: after staring intently....do you want to kiss me?

HER: (possibility A) "WTF? U creep...hell no!"
YOU: Ha....well...the way your body language was reacting it said you did...maybe you got me mixed up with somebody else in the time-space continuum....good move...I would have felt bad rejecting you"

HER: (possibility B) "Maybe" or (silence) or "yes"
YOU: lean in and go for it

HER: (possibility C) "Not here....let's go to my bedroom"
YOU: thank Atomicglow :)

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First, a little update:
She wrote me, later on the same day, on facebook. Just a simple "Hey, I just came home now". Usually we don't write on facebook, we talk on the phone or text.

I didn't respond to that. The next day, she called me, explained why she couldn't make it (work stuff) and said she was sorry. I said something like "It's more of a problem for you". I wanted to indicate, that she is the one who needs help with the school stuff while at the same time saying "It's your loss", without saying it. I don't know if it worked. We talked shortly and then I ended the call, by saying I'm busy.

A few hours later, she called again and had a question about homework. I explained it to her shortly and again ended the call, saying I was busy. That was it for now, I'm gonna see her later in school.

@ centrifugio
Yeah, I neg her a lot, when we talk in school or on the phone, sometimes via text too, so this shouldn't be a problem. IOIs ... That seems to be a problem for me. I think she gave me lots of IOIs, but her behaviour when it comes to meeting me, shows otherwise.

@atomicglow
Thx, IF I get her on a date or at least alone somewhere, that's a good way to go. I actually had the cube prepared to use on her. And since I am interested in Psychology (I'm going to university to study it, next year, which she knows), it is no problem at all to put that in the conversation.

Btw, what is the tilt straw? Don't know it, couldn't find anything via google.

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I think that you should be very relaxed and see her as your girlfriend. I mean that you should be very comfortable and don't care about what she thinks about you. Be confident and funny. Talk to her like she's a wuss, who wants to win your approval and play funny roles, so that these roles will give you the right replies. Don't think about what you have to say or about techniques or the outcome, meet with her to have fun. Act like you did in the fourth class, tease her a lot and make fun of her.
Be yourself, but be the best version of yourself. I recently wrote an article about this subject and you can find some ideas to rely on http://seduceandattract.blogspot.com/20 ... -date.html.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 07, 2011 2:31 pm 
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Please don't try what atomicglow suggested.

Mystery Method is not the right thing for you, you need to be natural. Don't use the unnatural canned stuff, as you might get into corners in the end, not being interesting anymore and all that ;)

The only way MM works is if you have a huge amount of routines and material to talk about. But what happens when you run out of MM material? You gotta go natural again. And there's a high risk of failing after that because you can't keep up the level of entertainment you gave her first.

So PLEASE, start off natural. Don't use any preselected topics or lines or routines.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:01 am 
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Madrox,

If I am understanding the flow correctly here...she was supposed to come over for a project but never showed up? That was a MAJOR SHIT test and sorry to say...YOU FLUNKED! Clearly, this chick is scamming you for help in school and like the AFC in a bar that buys chicks drinks then gets dispatched you are being played.

You need to call her out (in a nice but firm way). Make a joke out of her not showing up or the next time she asks for help, tell her it will COST her....make her do something like bake you some brownies or chocolate chip cookies. Believe me on this...I NEVER EVER EVER EVER buy a chick a drink first... I ALWAYS make them buy me one first...that establishes in their mind, that you are WORTH IT. The 10's are SO used to getting what they want, by feeding into their world, you will never rise above the rest. After she does something for you, she will somehow have to justify it in her mind...10's NEVER doubt themselves so her only way of rationalizing this will be to elevate YOU in her mind...

Regarding the straw check here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGvs1PhGjU0
A few words of caution though:
1) No MATTER HOW MUCH she wants to know the secret NEVER DIVULGE it...as soon as you, you have DEVALUED the "mystery" and yourself
2) EVERY chick I have ever done that for wants to see it again...NEVER REPEAT it..You are NOT A SHOW MONKEY (I have negged chicks using this line or something like "quit being bossy or I cant be your boyfriend"


Regarding Brysti's Commnets.....
Suggesting MM = unnatural is a specious argument. The whole point of MM is to seamlessly integrate it into your routine (even if that routine is being spontaneous)...No question natural is best but....having a dozen or so hooks at your disposal that you can fall back on is a great confidence builder...spending years as an intensivist in ICU's I can tell you that having LOTS of practice builds LOTS of confidence.....Why not start with a few routines then go spontaneous when the mood suits you?

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Well that's the problem: Many rookies and beginners CAN'T simply switch from routine to spontanous. They don't know what to say or to do, because they ran out of canned material. That's why I advice beginners to start off natural.

I know that mystery can work, I sometimes use some routines as well. Just saying that I used to have a hard time switching between unnatural and natural.

I won't step off my opinion that MM is not the right stuff to start with for beginners.

Madrox, you can try both and see what's best, see if you are able to switch from unnatural to natural without many problems, or losing your value.

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