Setting Frames

Talk about likes and dislikes.

I like people who... (or) I don't like when...

I like girls who... (what ever behavioural frame I want)

Or use outside authority

"You know whats crazy is my friend Molly...(Story portraying the Frame)...I thought that was cool"

Important Frames

Independent - Doesn't care what people think (society) rules and regulations
regarding sex and sexaul relationships

Sexually Aggressive - Goes for what She wants

Keeps secrets - I am discreet

Non Judgemental - I don't judge

It don't get weird and fall in love quick like other guys

Example Routines

Standards Evaluation Frame (He Doesn't Like Jealous Girls)

You know what you seem interesting, you're not the jealous type are you? well I was at the hooka bar that me and my friends go to almost every wednesday and I was hanging out with this girl and she didnt have to work all that day or night and we'd taken alot of pictures, and she grabbed my phone and I thought she was looking at pictures we had taken earlier, later on we were going to a party and I was looking for a bunch of people on my phone you know to say hey we're heading to x y z place hey you should come hang out, when I noticed there was no more female numbers on my phone. (omg I cant believe she did that, thats so crazy)

Blocking Frame

You know what, after I got dovorced it was kind of interesting, It seems to me that people are going out and the first thing they're trying to do is put someone into a relationship box, what I like to do is I like to go out and have fun and let what ever happens happens.

Sexual Framing

Sexually Aggressive -
You know, something interesting about latin girls that I really like is they seem to be real nurturing, they're real touchy when we're out doing something they always have their hands on me, and theres just something about that that I like.
You know with this bar its kinda strange because girls are not that aggressive, but theres this other place I go to and I like it because girls are more aggressive there, like they'll come up to you and tell you what they are thinking and flirt with you, I love that.

I really like girls who are aggressive, when they see something they want or when they decide they want something.

Non Judgemental -

I really like women who r open and just free and they do what they what to do and they dont care what scociety thinks, because its really nobody elses business .

(Girl comments - She's dancing Slutty) I like women who can be so free about their sexuallity, she knows shes sexy and shes not afraid to show it, I like that."

If anyone whats to know more on framing, I highly recomment Captain Jack, any other questions on this complex subject pm me

what is this exactly doing? is this planting a suggestion or something?

Yes

For example

If you tell a girl a story about how you met a friend of a friend and you started dating but you both had agreed to keep it low key, but she ended up telling someone about it and it got out.

If you say that this annoyed you because she broke your trust and that you dumped her because of it and how you hate it when people kiss and tell.

She now knows indirectly that you do not kiss and tell, so anything she does will not get out and her rep will be intact.

Also she knows that you are not needy and that if she breaks your trust you'll not hang around which make it much more likely she will be very honest with you, especially if shes into you.

If she agrees verbally and starts saying things like "yeah I hate that too" you know the frame is set, if she doesn't it wont matter it'll be at the back of her mind anyway.

Hope this helps

ahh i see. I just start learning about all this and i haven't really gone over framing yet. I just been going over hypnosis and how a suggestion is planted in the subconcious? I think. I think thats right. I'm reading Steven Pelairi – The Art of Covert
Hypnosis now.

well with framing u are planting a suggestion

with the sexually aggressive frame you're letting her know you like girls who make moves

with discretion you're letting her know you will not tell people what goes on between the two of you so her rep will b safe

with non judgemental, you're telling her she is free to be herself and act how she wants because you'll never judge her for it

when you talk about how it wont get weird you're telling her you wont start being creepy round her after and stalk her

with independent you are telling her you think its cool when people don't care what others think and do what they want

when she agrees to these she is qualifying herself to you stronger than any "what have you besides your looks" line, thou those lines are still good worded in the right way!

all in all you're telling her that you're an all out cool guy that gets it

That was a nice post. I love the idea of framing. Really one of my favourite ideas I can think of at the moment.

With that: I am not trying to sound like a broken record but I would definitely make sure I've good social skills before I try all that complex stuff.
And, in-line with that, I would make sure I'm good at getting women before I try and complicate it with sexual framing.

I'm a massive fan of hypnosis but I would never intentionally be trying to use it while chatting up a girl. Of course, I may have improved my results by knowing it, it is not a conscious thing. It's fucked up and it's unnecessary.

awesome thread!

anymore thoughts on it?

Frames are powerful.

In SS 3.0 you can use quizes that let's you reject some of her answers and this sets up a screening frame (that you're selecting her) and also that you're a fun/playful guy.

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i really think captain jack has the best products out there for sexual framing but the audio quality of them is pretty bad and i'm from germany, so its fucking hard for me to get what he is saying

so it would be awesome if someone could share some more lines/routines...

thanks

I hate NLP/Hypnosis/Speed seduction or whatever the fuck else this mental masturbation is like these days. Not even sure what I'm doing on the NLP/Hypnotic boards. However, this post is awesome. I'm actually using all of these frames in my seductions, and they fucking work man.

That being said, they'll only work if the girl actually likes you and is willing to somewhat act differently so that you'll like her more. It's amazing what woman will do to get some dick.

Frames are easy to implement. Just think: "What do I like in a girl?" And then tell her in normal conversation.

Just wanted to lay that out there.

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This is a pretty good thread. I'm hoping to hang out with this one chick I would like to f-close, so I will definitely be trying out a few of the ideas that you listed.

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you have a cute face but i can already tell you are the bad girl type.

i know that a lot of people think thank you're a good girl, but i'm sure you have a really naughty side on you too

yarrr, I use that one a lot too. (Almost all the time, actually)
"You look like a really nice girl, but I detect a serious naughty side..., don't worry, I won't tell anyone "

Usually very soon to start the interaction running down the proper path... (the sexual path, ofc )

Sometimes you get blown out with it though if you do it too early, so you can tone it down a bit by saying: "You look like a really nice girl, but I can tell that you have another side"

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yes captain jack says, the earlier you set the sexual frames the better. because otherwise you have to fight to get out of the frames she is putting on you.

the line you said, "but dont worry i wont tell anyone" can be a good transition
if you use it like, "thats our little secret now........are you good at keeping secrets?" and then the [kiss and tell] routine

what do you think?

edit:

CJ uses his Rings on Fingers Routine and his version of strawberry field almost all the time. these are awesome to set sexual frames. but you should do them only in isolation

Definitely, as long as you don't pop out of the sexual frame you're in, you could talk about job/school/puppies, it doesn't matter. The interaction is perceived as being sexual. However if you don't set sexual frames and keep talking about job/school/puppies, you've just gained another "friend". That's why the earlier you set them, the better.

kiss and tell routine? as in saying: "I don't kiss and tell"? Yeah that's good, keeping secrets is a good frame to set. (especially in social circles, or college).

I can't be bothered to learn the ring finger stuff, and frankly I find it kinda lame. But I use the strawberry fields sometimes when I'm bored.

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