Many people overlook the actual reason most conversations die, which is that people are not genuine about themselves around women (this applies to convos with dudes as well, but let's stay on topic). The approach many AFCs take when in a conversation is, "I want to find out what she likes, or the obscure things we have in common, and then talk about that with her!" The problem with this line of thinking is that you will undoubtedly run out of things to say, and you will not appear interesting or genuine.

Here's an example of what I'm saying. A friend of mine who happens to be under my wing @ PUA really liked this girl he was talking to, and when the subject of music came up, he said that he liked "all kinds of music" in order to avoid being grouped in with the wrong crowd. "Yawn" was my criticism (and her's too for sure) of his method. I asked him what he's into specifically right now, and he mentioned "dubstep, and industrial techno". Fantastic. I bet he could talk for hours about all kinds of fascinating things that he likes about the music, specific artists, and he could playfully bring up and deny or accept the stereotypes associated with people that listen to that specific genre.

Exert a stronger reality than her. Bring her into your land. A lot of mPUAs recommend doing most of the talking in a conversation, so if you talk about things you have given a lot of thought, you will certainly make this happen!

What can you all add to this? Has anyone else experienced any situations where the conversations just died? If so, what was the context?

If the conversation starts drifting off I'll usually just ask something wierd and out of place by saying "god aren't you bored of the same old conversations?" then "what's your favourite bottle cap smell?" or "what's your favourite flavour of sticker", its fun and get's her contributing some more.

As for owning the frame I'm always wary about how much I'm talking, not that it's a bad thing, but to have her fully engaged you need feedback and opinions too right? conversation is by definition a 2 way thing .

Most Importantly being genuine and bringing energy (not too much) to the conversation. These things are essential, people can smell bullshit a mile off and its just unattractive for everyone in a set.

There's my 2 cents

R&B

I definitely agree. We all, especially women, enjoy conversing with someone that is not afraid to voice their opinion. I have witnessed, even been involved, in conversations that lasted no longer than a few words, merely because opinions and development of the conversation were unable to be put forward, in the simplest way possible.

I will give you an example.
When you ask someone how there are, and they reply, 'Good thank you. How are you?' - (an indication that they wish to take the conversation further.) Some will respond with an "I'm fine, thanks", or something along those lines. This is not enough. By abruptly answering their question, it aborts the conversation before it ever takes off. Better yet, they should aim to extend it by adding a simple sentence or two.

..Are you good? Why is that?
Are you not feeling well. Why, what's wrong?
Evaluate, and elongate your sentences. Give them a reason to stick around and chat with you.

Always be specific. The music question you stated is a great example. Music can be such an inviting conversation topic, if done correctly! Everyone loves music. Different genres, different artists, different beats all for our own very different reasons. Just think of the possibilities that could arise from that one topic.

The thing is, whatever you choose to talk about, it is up to you to make it interesting and worth while. Add more and more to whatever you say each time. This way, as the conversation develops, she will think to herself "Hmm..whatever I ask, he always seems to have more to say. I think i'll stick around and see what else he's got to say". As opposed to "This guy is quite dull. I keep having to prompt him for specific answers, and all I get are simple replies. I think I'll move onto a better, more engaging conversationalist"

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No disrespect (I am an AFC). But aren't you guys little overcomplicating things?

When I speak to anybody the conversation doesn't die out unless both are interested in the topic...

So isn't the trick just to have buch of topics that girls are interseted in? Such as relationship, sex, traveling, fit lifestyle, spirituality talk (religion and believes of transcendent)?

One of the colleagues in previosu job I had was self-proclaimed lady-man. I twice witnessed him talking to girls and what I found out was that he was just changing topics swiftly and all were mostly related to sex and his past relationships. He could talk for hours... And the funny thing was that the second time the stories were delivered exactly the same way as the first time (including target's lauhter, lol)

i have mostly because of what you say, i have failed in the follow out question wich makes the pressure of continuing on her

But i ask you this what would you say in this situation?
HB- So what you do for fun?
me- You know going out and stuff (i always choose this because in reallity i love playing roleplay session with my friends or warhammer matchs but i know is a topic is gonna burn you when you throw it)

So what do you do when the true answer is not popular

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