Hi,

I was for a lil while out of the game. Now I am concentrating again on the game.
Iám in my early thirties and go for younger women...I prefer early 20ies-mid twenties.
the last approaches, that led to a conversation were fine, we had fun, but either she told me she has a boyfriend or suddenly he came up. That´s ok for me, although I wish there were no bfs. But somehow these situations r not good for my mindset, cos I start thinking, that I´m unattractive to these women. In my mindset normally for women looks and a lil agedifference r not that important, but when I see the bfs of the girls I like: It´s the way these guys behave (not just the look) which makes them attractive for her. I think they had no hard childhood like I did and could grow their self esteem and now u can see it how they walk and talk... I can not anymore catch up with that. The girls with a bf, they see I´m busting their balls and they like to have fun with me, cos they have already a bf. They r not afraid I could hurt them or they see me as a friend, although I make sexual comments and I´m really not nice! The girls without bf, they dump me right away...more unconciously, cos they feel my lack of the past, which I cannot recover!!(thats a fact, not a believeproblem!!!!!).

Please give me some advises, if u felt the same and please no quickfix answers!!

Being attrative is always a plus and is always going to make things easier for you. If your fugly to some girl, its going to take a lot more effort to make her interested. So that being said I have actually got a logical system that will help you out if you take the time and apply it.

Lets assume you have an attraction scale. now were going to set that attraction scale 1 -10. Now first what you need to do is go to hotornot.com post some pictues of you that have some type of different clothing or something different about them so when people rate them the highest rated picture can tell you waht people find the most appealing for you.....you see what im saying

then or at the same time it dont matter what you need to do is observe my friend observe. And what i mean by that is when you say go to meijer, walmart, kmart, the mall wherever you go and you see an attractive female and you walk by her smile and smile and say hey! or just talk to her.....talking to her be best in my opinion....... take note of her reactions, her smiling adn what not
but alway keep in mind what scale of attractivness would you put her on 7, 5, a 10?

after you do this 50, 100, 200 times to different woman you will see a pattern beginning to form.....certain woman on your attractiveness scale will be more receptive to you than others...

so to break down what i am saying

say you notice girls who are a 7 on yoru attrativness scale show the best signs of interest than compared to 8, 9, or 10s..

so those 7s if you seek them out will take a moderate amount of game to be able to get them interested, but since the 7 your already talking to finds you attracitve it will be easier to game her...'

the further you go down the scale 7 to 1 the easier it gets to get with these girls..

the higher you go up 8 to 10 the harder it gets and the more effort, but more rejection you will face at the same time to get with these girls...

so yes my friend attraction and hotness to matter in the interaction 90% of the time.....the guys who are ugly with hot girls are exceptions to the rule


by the way my method isnt 100% some girls are bitches, some girls have bfs as you have already found out lol, some are lesbians and some arent looking to date..

but by scoping out what different looking woman think of you. you then will have a much better idea of the type of girl you can look for........in the example i gave you above you would want to go for the 6 to the 8 because they be the easiet to get any lower might not be attractive for you. 6 will require less game than a 7 and a 8 will require more game than a 7.

but since that 7 finds you attractive just makes you job a little easier, now just dont say something stupid lol



that a good enough anwser?

let me know

also did i miss anything

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Dude, I like ur answer!

did u miss anything...

well let me clarify:
When I talked about attractiveness of guys, I dont mean their looks. Its more their confidence, self esteem, their imprinting by society...something u can sense more than just describe by seeing.
Thats what I am lacking of. And as I mentioned I can not catch up to this....I am already imprinted...behaviour, thoughts...r burned into my brain and body.
And to me it seems girls especially the hot ones smell it or just see it right away (unconciously). Of course I learned some stuff while being the game (read a lot of books and watch videos and of course many field actions) and to me it seems that some hbs like me (I can feel energy) but Im no bf- or affair material for them.
So therefor Im doubting myself and its not easy to motivate myself. And my lifestyle is nothing special...u know....im just working with cocky comedy.
Well u said, I should try over and over....Man before I made a break I did all these things...put fotos on the internet, let them rate me, approached a lot girls, sets...I have no motivation doing that again. Right now its simple: If I like a girl, I try to approach and bust her balls. I mean somehow I know what kind of girls I like. But as I said before, when it worked the last times, at some point a bf came up (after kiino even by her and flirting). I didnt feel bad, cos we had a good time. But Im doubting myself, why doesnt it work with the single ladies?!

Well first off even David D. says you need to be confident and have self esteem. yes those traits are very important because if your not confident, have self esteem and everyting else not many girls are going to want to date you because guys who lack those aspects tend to be a doormat you know


and what are you asking when you say

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I ve read a lot of books, many pschology-books.
It is quite clear, that self-esteem and confidence is built up in the childhood. That is an imprint u can not change. I do not have a special social standing (status) like a rockstar, moviestar, politician....all I have is cocky comedy when it comes to Attraction.
When it comes to approaching hbs the last weeks, cc worked only with the girls who have a serious bf. The single girls dumped me right away. I know there can b many reasons why I get dumped. But I start forming that belief, that hb sense my lack of confidence like in the first 2 seconds and it is over. But what can I do then? I wanna enjoy the ride, but the outcome is at some point also important.

well if i was to say fuck you in one way youd be offended, but if i was to say it in a playful way it be taken as a joke..

perhaps how you are delivering these cocky and funny lines is perhaps seen either to funny, or to cocky.......or your just delivering it wrong....

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Well ...this is quite complicated to proof, but I have some experiences and I learned to calibrate better. That means I perceive quicker how cocky I have to be or only can be with this girl...of course I am still off line sometimes, but to me it nowadays seems she doesnt like my humor or understands it...so whatever
When talking about the single chics, it seems to me, that her bitchshield is already up cos she is not interested. She knows that unconciously. She doesnt perceive me as a potential bf or affair and frames everything I say to boring, not funny, loser. Of course I try to reframe, but at some point I have to say:" have a nice one", cos i dont wanna give away my energy.

well sounds like its coming down to looks my friend.

if a hot girl approached you you be more open to talking then say if an ugly girl approached you.....

seems to me maybe the girls you are trying to talk to arent physically attracted and in night clubs that a lot of the equation because if she doesnt find you to be attractive she isnt going to be all that responsive to you talking...

if you went up to a girl and she thought you were cute then its game on..

the girls who have boyfriends dont care because they have a boyfriend..


the above is assuming your doing everything right and you say you are so it all comes down to when you approach the girls have no interest....




let me ask you this......why you in a night club trying to pick up girls? WHAT IS YOUR GOAL?

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Well first of all I do not think it is just the look, it is as I described before more the in early childhood imprinted self esteem and confidence, that she senses.

Second I do not approach (anymore) in nightclubs, but in bars and also via internet (whole different game).
What I want is a gf, but in the beginning I play the game and I am focused on having fun and enjoying myself. I try not to become emotionally involved in the beginning. I know that by experience, although sometimes it is not easy to know when to shift (I am talking about that problem in an other thread in this forum!).

Earlier I thought I am not too picky, cos there r many pretty girls. Now after using some online dating sites.....man I realized how picky I am just because of the looks!!
So if u r trying to say I go for too hot girls, I really do not care, because otherwise I am not attracted and not motivated. I also have to say I do not go for hb 10, rarely for hb 9, cos it is a different game (especially in the later stages the shit-tests will be much harder!!), but if I have a good oportunity I have to use it and bust her balls, when she is expecting some asskissing-bs...hahah.

One more thing: In the last months, when I was out of the game, I gained some weight (more than 10 kilos). I think that is a handicap, but u know I didnt change much and the game is supposed to be for the handicaped.