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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:12 pm 
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Background - I'm currently a senior in college, and finally lost my virginity this summer in california after learning some game and hanging out with my friend who is a natural.
I returned to school which is in new england and there are very few opportunities to meet women (I have no car, not in a frat, %70 guys, awful I know), despite this I've gotten a few numbers by being direct and charismatic.
Anyway, there was a dance the first week of school and there were many freshmen girls, I was doing great and danced and flirted with most of the girls there. One girl in particular caught my attention by her fashion, we danced I got the number, but I didn't instant date which was a mistake.
Our first date we got yogurt and talked, I brought her to my place kissed her in the stairwell and got her into my room fine. However, here I froze for a while and talked for an hour or so about ourselves and music being my passion. Eventually I got the hint I should make a move and did so. I got her down to only her panties when her friend calls worried about her. The mood dies and I tell her "you don't want to do that", trying to push past lmr but it didn't work. I reluctantly walk her to her dorm and tell her I'm not going inside, she replies "I never said you could", I reply "ho ho ok" in a very cool way.
2nd date I take her to see a free movie on campus, I bring her back to my place and this time she stops me at pants removal. She says she needs to get back she doesn't want to seem like a slut to her friends, I say "it doesn't matter, you're here with me, that's all that matters", no good. I walk her back to her dorm, this time turning back a little bit farther from her place.

So at this point there have been 3 interactions, 2 lmr's. I decide maybe she just needs more comfort. I hang out with her near the college fountain, running kino games and telling her I can't hang out for long I have to hang out with some friends later that night, I kiss her goodbye. Date 4 I invite her into my social circle, I'm part of the dance club at school. She's horrible at dancing and I bust on her for it, she loves it, I kiss her goodbye because I actually did have a meeting later that day.

Date 5, last night I invite her to grab lunch with me, 6pm. Hopefully the late hour won't be an excuse. I play pool with her in the Campus Center, win of course. I bust on her for not attending the career fair (I did). I isolate her under a tree and makeout for a while. Bring her back to my place and she stops me after I start fingering her. Her excuse this time is her floor is having a mandatory meeting at 8pm. I say "so what, just miss it" and she's like no. I walk her out of my apartment complex and say "actually, I'm not going to walk you back", without hesitation or looking back she says "ok bye". Shit was cold. I'm hurt.

The first two dates ended near midnight, so the lateness excuse seems plausible. All calls and interactions have been spaced 2 to 3 days apart, I'm disciplined. Of course I'm dating other women concurrently and I think she may have seen me on a date with another woman, but this should work to my advantage.

So, what do guys? I'm debating ignoring her for a while, giving her an ultimatum or trying again. TBH this is bothering me because she's one of the few girls on this campus that dresses artsy (I REALLY like that about her). It's also hurting my ego that I'm getting so far and falling just short, I know other guys would kill to have my problems but it's really messing with my head. I'm also not getting as much sleep as I used to thinking about this bullshit.

It's clear I haven't done the best job at getting her to qualify herself, but once I'm with her one on one I forget to keep doing it - it's probably an inner game thing, when I'm with her I'm genuinely happy she's with me. Maybe I haven't made it clear how very little time I have (senior year classes) and how valuable it is, and how I'm CHOOSING to spend it with her rather than the other girls I'm dating.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:00 am 
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I guess this isn't a question that requires a simple answer.
I've been in the game for a while and am having success.
She texted me today about wheaties (inside joke) all seems well. I'll just try again later in the week.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:21 pm 
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If you can get them to your place, you're doing good.
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I got her down to only her panties when her friend calls worried about her. The mood dies and I tell her "you don't want to do that"
If you're kinoing enough to strip her down to panties and someone calls, by all means, push it harder, kiss sensible points while she's talking start rubbing her thighs then her booty, tickle her, things like that, if done non-aggressively, it usually goes smooth. Letting her talk on the phone and going cold even for a short while will kill the mood, you gotta keep playing as if the phone never existed and when she hangs up, take it up a notch.


Also, I think you need this tip from David DeAngelo : "Dont use logic, it'll fail".

That last thing you said was horrible btw, you had the cocky part, but not the funny one, which is really bad.

TBH, you became her friend, move on for a while and if she doesn't contact within like 2 weeks, initiate contact with a text or something.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 2:22 pm 
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Persistence, if your fingering her and getting to the stage your going to be having sex at some point, but build more comfort, she really likes you, but it appears she is nervous/inexperiemced/scared to invest. Compliment her when your getting physical ie how sexy she looks semi naked blah blah blah ie make her mmore mentally and physically relaxed and comfortable, hell even start off with a full massage but make sure it's tender and sensual, so more of a slow and steady sexual escalation and keep trying .... doesnt feel like the friend zone yet tbh lol if it is I wish I had friends like that!

Oh If you get shot down or the mood goes off and she is leaving - confront her, not in a hostile manner. Just say something like you are really attracted to her, but she has to decide what she wants. Say you know sex can sometimes be scary and a big deal, you have slept with someone in the past and got hurt so this is a big step for you too but you can feel a connection that draws you back to her. Then leave her to contact you, withdraw from the interactions, let her emotionally rationalise what you said and let her realise she has loads of fun with you and is missing out when your not around, but she cant have you as just friends. This way you know were you stand get closure if needed and can move on.

My gut instinct is when you do sleep with her make sure the first few times is both passionate but tender, lots of eye contact as you slowly grind into her, bring the adventurous/kinky in later! I get the feeling sleeping with you is a big deal. And this is definitely GF material situation, if the idea is a one off/casual fuck buddy thing you will fuck her up if you do sleep with her.


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