I want to collect a consensus (I want a lot of people to participate) as to what the general rules of pick-up are. Say you dropped all the canned lines and just had to go all natural. Why? Well theres no substitute for natural game. What are the general rules? Here are mine (dont let them affect your answers though):

1. Be confident. Confidence is the number one most important thing. This includes voice tone, body language, and non verbal communication.

2. Control the conversation and the frame. If she negs you, neg her back (a little harder). If she IOD's you in any way (including showing disinterest or being rude), IOD her back.

3. Dont be "try hard." Never appear to be trying too hard in any aspect of the pick-up. Also, do not worry about the outcome.

4. create time constraint at beginning of interaction. This makes it easier to number close because you established at the begginning that you had to go.

5. Talk a little bit (if possible) after getting the number. Why? She's used to the average guys getting the number and running, as if that was the only goal of the interaction. Instead, stay to chat for a while, then take off.

I agree with the above post!

Confidence is King! If you don't have it, "Act as if" to exhuberate it. People like being around generally happy confident people. What do you prefer the shy girl that can't take a compliment standing in the corner or the HB8 laughing and talking to everyone?

Body Language- I can't stress this enough as being one of the most important factors. 90% of what you are saying to her isn't coming out of your mouth, it's in how you carry yourself, what you are looking at, your verbal pace, your tone, if you pause to emphasize.....certain things when you are talking.

J SMOOTH

good post.... body language is just about everything...

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Many great points have already been made. My two cents:

Have standards. Display interest when she has proven that she earns it. You are cool so you know that you deserve cool girls. In this way you acknowledge the uniqueness of the girl and she will feel great because you show that you find her attractive for other reasons than just her looks. She will also assume that you are a high value guy since you are the selector.

Another crucial thing: Kino

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Yeah, good point FreeLife. I meant to add those two things, especially the part about showing interest (in things other than her looks). This way, when you ask for her number, she won't be like "this guy doesn't even know me, the only thing he likes about me is my ass, Im gonna give him a fake number."

Also, yes, kino. It is important for attraction/comfort building. So the new list is:

1. Be confident. Confidence is the number one most important thing. This includes voice tone, body language, and non verbal communication.

2. Control the conversation and the frame. If she negs you, neg her back (a little harder). If she IOD's you in any way (including showing disinterest or being rude), IOD her back.

3. Dont be "try hard." Never appear to be trying too hard in any aspect of the pick-up. Also, do not worry about the outcome.

4. create time constraint at beginning of interaction. This makes it easier to number close because you established at the begginning that you had to go.

5. Talk a little bit (if possible) after getting the number. Why? She's used to the average guys getting the number and running, as if that was the only goal of the interaction. Instead, stay to chat for a while, then take off.

6. After you've attracted her, show GENUINE interest in her (compliment her) for things other than her looks. This way, when you ask for her number, she won't be like "this guy doesn't even know me, the only thing he likes about me is my ass, Im gonna give him a fake number."

7. Kino. It is important for attraction/comfort building.


Keep the ideas coming guys. It is a lot easier to remember a few basic guidelines rather than a whole bunch of scattered information (such as a whole book on pick-up).

Statement of Intent is important, although some can get away with intensifying the kino. One way or another, you have to let her know for sure that you are not shooting for the Let's Be Friends award. You're going for the gold.

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