Hey there guys new member here, not sure if i should post the long draw out version of what's going on since it's my first post. So I'll try to cut it short, I met a girl through some friends we had been talking for a good week and a half. I built up the cocky funny guy thing in her eyes (even though I'm really huge afc inside). Even though this girl is gorgeous I restrained myself from ever going about complimenting her looks.

We probably hung out three times since we started talking, everything went amazing. We come back to my place but I was unable to fully close since she was going through her womanly things... I'm sure you guys can figure that out, but she was very verbal in that she wanted more. I assured her the time will come and we are in no hurry. I see her Saturday night. I close, we end up having sex.

When she gets home we're talking here and there and she asks me if I think were moving too fast, I let her know I don't believe we are moving too fast, we are simply taken it however we feel since we are both very comfortable with the situation. I ask her if she's trying to slow down and assures me she's fine with the situation and like's where we are at, but she didn't want me to get the idea that she is ready for a relationship. I like her know I'm not looking for one, but if the right opportunity came along I wouldn't be against it. And I probably fucked up but i said it things continue the way they were going, she is someone I could potentially see something happening with if things continue on this path.

She let's me know she's on the same page, but she just has a lot going on in life right now and isn't sure she's ready to jump into something this quick. We've only been hanging out for about a week and a half. My question is, should I take this as buyers remorse? Does she mean she's not ready for a relationship with anyone OR with me? She called me the next day we spoke everything was fine, and I even through out something saying along the lines of. Well next time we hang out you're going to have to wine and dine me for you to get anywhere! And she complied and said she would be more then willing to do that.

I would like to progress this to something more, but my question is what's my play? And how do I know if she just wants me as a fuck buddy or if she just doesn't want a relationship period, or if she just doesn't think I'm bf material? Thanks guys.

Earlier today she was back up in my hotel room wearing a dress and laying down on my bed on her stomach. I started giving her a massage from the neck down and she said that it felt good. I was rubbing her legs and inner thighs trying to build up some type of sexual tension/mood. I then started to kiss her legs but when I got up to her ass, she sat up and basically told me that the passion is gone and that's things aren't the same as they were before.

I don't get it... She's fine with me kissing her all over, hugging her, putting my arms all over her but when I go in for a kiss on the mouth or other regions, she freezes me out. What does that mean? She's the direct type so if she didn't want me to do any of that, she would have said so at the beginning.

There's a possibilty she might stay the night with me after our big date because we have plans to be together the next day. I won't ask her to, but I want to create the setting where she wants to.

Also, I realize that just because she stays the night with me it doesn't guarantee anything.

I know I must sound like an AFC, but I'd like to have one last passionate night with her one last time before I leave...

Should I just romance the hell out of her on our date?
Are there any PU tactics that I can use?
Or should I not even bother and just give up at this point?

I'm currently seeing my x-girlfriend. Problem is she still lives with her boyfriend. she started dating him right after me and they bought a house together and have been living there for 2 months. we've been broken up for almost a year. I guess she realized she made a mistake and we've been sleeping together for about a week now. Question is, am I headed for disaster? or do you think this kind of situation works out? If you need more info let me know... Thanks

Lodewijkp

I can really use your advice again. You mentioned that if I want I can date her or be her friend? But I don't think she's ready to date, because she just got out of a really serious relationship. I haven't asked her if she wanted to date me? Because when I asked her out casually in the past she told me that will plan something out for both of us. But this has not happened yet? I don't know why she wants to keep hanging around me? All we ever talk about is COLLEGE WORK she would bring up some other about her personal life here and there, but other than that she only talks about COLLEGE. I don't mind talking about COLLEGE with her, but then why is she bringing up other stuff about her life from time to time? I'm not frustrated yet? but I'm getting annoyed..........And then she keeps telling me that I got answers to this and that for you? And I would do it for you again and again blah blah blah blah sorry to bore you with this but I really don't know where she's going with all of this rubbish? And I have not asked her for any material or college work EVER? so I don't know why she keeps doing all this for what reason? What do you have to make out of all this? I would appreciate a response

Thanks always

If someone could please reply to what i wrote I'd really appreciate it.

Hey guys looking for some help on this one.

My girlfriend over the past few weeks has gone completely distant and cold on me. She has completely stopped trying to make plans to hang out or anything, its only been me. Whenever I message her she gives very short answers. She has completely stopped saying she loves me and being affectionate in any way. She has gotten incredibly busy (school + working 3 jobs) so we have little time for each other, but its not that that bugs me, its her attitude.

In my head I already know its over. I talked to her last night and she said she doesn't know whats changed, but she doesn't have any desire to sleep with me anymore. She doesnt seem like she wants to breakup, but she also doesn't see how I am happy right now (I'm not). I have a feeling this had to do with me getting laid off a month ago which kind got me really down and as such I started becoming more of a doormat to her and much more submissive. I've got a new job now (really high paying one) but I still am suffering in a bit of depression because of how things are going with my girlfriend. Ive been incredibly nice to her last week, surprising her at work with tea, buying us a cooking class lesson etc but all of this was met with uninterest from her.

I figure I have two options.

1.) End it with her as she clearly is taking me for granted, doesn't respect anymore and walk out with my head held high.

2.) Go completely distant and wait for her to come to me, stop being a doormat and putting up with this terrible behavior.

What would you guys do? I do really love this girl, we've been together a long time (almost 3 years) and ideally I would like things to work out between us, but I no longer know if that is possible.

If you love her then I would try option #2 before I proceed with option #1. Maybe letting her know what she's missing out on may make her realize that you are the one for her......that's just my two cents. Are you sure she's not seeing anybody else?

No she isn't. She honestly doesn't have time to see anyone else. Her entire life right now consists of her last year of University and working 3 jobs on top of that.

Im going to try option 2. I guess it will let me know where she stands.

Good Luck man I hope everything works out for you

AFCINSIDE be patient... don't bring the whole topic up .. don't talk about it. if it was buyers remorse she would flake on the next date... or she wouldn't even talk to you. once you have caused attraction you can steer it in the right direction... but don't force it, you need a week or 2. If you get the feeling she's manipulative you shouldn't trust her.

what do you want .. a relationship .. a fuckbuddy ?
if you want a relationship and she doesn't you shouldn't compromise your values about what you want in life.
if you want a fuckbuddy but she wants a relationship you should leave her...
it depends on your morals , ethics and values.

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KALIBRATION it's not AFC .. men do enjoy woman and you like to be around certain woman.. you cannot force or control other people - you can only do your best and enjoy the process.

it isn't AFC at all...it's ok to like someone a bit more.

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disaster... you will get attached and emotional again...

she either will cheat on her BF and leave him ..
or she will leave you and stick with her BF...

a cheater will always cheat untill they decide not to change themselfs... and you cannot fuck her your whole life if she is with someone else.

look at what you want .. after this think about what is best for everyone.. what is a win win situation ?

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GRIM you are suffering because you don't have something... as long you don't have it wil cause stress. you need a healthy relationship.

there is only one cure when you are suffering and that is you - you need to decide to end the suffering.

make a descision...end it... if you decide to talk to her about it you need to end it in your head. Talk about it after you already gave up the idea of continueing because you need to be deadly honest here.

it sounds like she is a manipulative woman...what kind of relationship do you have ? a loving on or a provider one ? did it go from a loving one to a providing one ?

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iceman ask her out ...don't call it a date.. it's just you 2 hanging out.

talk about passions and that kind of shit .. woman like emotions.. just ask her some questions and think about making funny remarks on her comments. talk about passions and ask her about her passions.. ask herself about defining moments in her life and tell her about yours...read some magazines, watch some movies and talk about that - talk about how the storyline has some connection to real life situations.

play games with her... read her palm .. make jokes about it.
when she asks a question make her guess...and at the end tell her you just like to make her guess. Do some qualifying.. you want to make sure she isn't some whore , ask about her relationship with her parents , ask about her family...

there are so many things to talk about...if you look around your room you have like 200 things to talk about... wallpaper .. how they produce it.. how glue give you hallucinations... whatever you want !

cocky funny .. enjoy .. emotions.

build attraction and emotional momentum by sharing....

you never know when a woman is ready..however ...a woman is always ready when she's attracted and her state pumped.

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Lodewijkp

First of all thank you very much for your response I really appreciate all you do for everyone here. The problem is that when I asked her out casually in the past she told me that she has a very busy schedule, and she told me that she promises that she will plan something out for both of us? So that's why I don't want to PUSH THE BUTTON AGAIN? you know? How am I suppose to ask her out again? She has a very busy schedule. Even If I bring up me and her just hanging out casually I know she's gonna say that she doesn't have any time? That's why I don't understand why she keeps talking to me in College? And keeps doing all of this BS like giving me KISSES and finding SCHOOL WORK for me........When in the ending she doesn't have any time for me when I talk about hanging out? How would you do it?

Thanks always