Those photos look pretty legit

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@ Darth Vader, I'm gonna try that..What do you normally put in the subject line?

This is the subject line/opener I created that works really well for me:

SUBJECT LINE: You Seeeeeemmm.....
BODY: interesting. And you're adorable. Just hope you're not a psychooo

(If I can personalize for the particular girl based on something in her profile, I'll do that instead of writing "interesting." Otherwise, that works fine.)

I like it cuz its short, so I don't seem like I'm trying too hard, and cuz its like a pushpull. And I like the subject line cuz it grabs her attention and intrigues her....But I'm curious to know what you put in your subject line.....

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I've tried your opener before doesn't yield the result I want. Girls get those type of emails everyday.


best headline I found was

Hey! or hi. Most girls open up every email for ego boost. They then delete it quickly if it doesn't shock them.

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Really? I'm not sure about that man. If you've ever made a fake female account on a dating site to see what types of messages guys send girls all the time, EVERY single guy just has "Hi" or "Hey" in the subject line...but hey, I'm the type of guy who goes out and tries everything, so I'm trying your tactics right now...we'll see.....

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I'm talking about this line. your subject line if added with
"hey you should remove that picture on your profile" sounds very suspicious.
I've tried to put" Attention!" on the subject line, but girls take it way to serious. Hi or Hey sounds very innoccent.

I've tried this on a lot of girls. " interesting. And you're adorable. Just hope you're not a psychoo" I get little to no emotional reaction. The thing I found out with your opener is they feel superior with that message and most respond back with a chip on their shoulder. They're not panicing or an emotional wreck, because you've already given them the upper hand. With my opener it creates pandemonium, doubt, insecurity. Same way she would feel if a real man approaches her in public. With compliment openers they already have the edge and control over you. They can choose when to talk to you and when not to. My opener and reopener gets her interested and opens up her emotions. Most will regret snapping at you after you tell them it's a joke and will be almost trying to get you to forgive them. Now you have to continue sturring her emotions until she finally breaks and want you.

Take the DR I sarged last night. Do you think she would give me a time or day. Hell half of my messages were misspelled and sounded dumb. Taking a Dr to a Mcdonalds? lol come on. She is use to rich guys taking her out to 4 -5 star restraunts. I opened her emotions and rode the wave until she broke and wanted to talk to me more and more. Once I felt the conversation wasn't getting anywhere I used my reopener then used the Kino method to get her.

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I need field reports fellas

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When on PoF I used: This is why (hb name or screen name) sucks!

Haha! You opened mine first!

opener of choice...........

hey all.

i'm a newbie to online dating and to this forum also.

Have been on POF for a couple of weeks and playing around with openers, this one has gotten the most responses, mostly along the lines of 'why' or 'maybe you should delete yours'.

However, the conversation ends after my reply, I changed it around a little;

"I thought you were adorable, I just had to say hi. I hope you can take a joke?
My names .... "


What are you guys saying in your replies to keep this going??

once the trail runs cold start it backup with the reopener.

Tell her "thanks for helping me win a bet with my buddy"

To which her reply will be

her : What bet?

You: Hold on a second, this is between me and my friend. If you want to join our circle you have to earn your way in.

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Got a girl tonight who just went "oh okay" hahahah

I'm getting a lot of response, but not many will reply once I reply with the joke line. anything i'm missing? Or should i just re-engage with the wager bit?

re engage with the wager bit.

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Here's my responses so far: I did this on Myyearbook and I will do the same for PlentyOfFish and OkCupid and paste the results in this thread.

Good: 11
Bad: 4
#s: None

"o okay"
"lol thanks"
"lol hi corey =) I thought u were jokin haha"
"lol hi =)"
"lol well hi corey im josi"
"thanks!"
"Ich kann, ich gerade wie, was war? und vielen Dank! Im bree(:"
"Awh well thank you."
"ok thanks im taken bye"
"lol well thank you"
"hi"
One girl said "Dont msg me again" after the first message then blocked me? lol what a bitch.
"i can take a joke but latrely guys on here are being assholes n thank u"
"oh haha ok. well hi lol"
"oohhhh i was really confused"
"oh haha hi"

ALSO: I'm following up with this:
"So this is the part where you tell me something super fun and cool about yourself.

You are super fun and cool aren't you?"

Hrm, what do you think of that?

@Darth Vader, you're a LITTLE bit misguided. You're not incorrect, but you're not correct either. The thing with direct game, is you are usually not gonna be "direct" the whole time. When I open with that line, my second message almost always has some kind of tease in it. And the thing is, even the opener isn't completely direct, cuz I'm pulling it back by saying I hope shes not a psycho. The responses that I usually get with that opener are something like "hahahah No! I'm not a psycho, I promise"
Anytime you go direct, you can always pull it back with a tease, so the whole mentality of thinking your giving all your value away or the girl has the upper hand is kind of misguided. The whole mentality should be "I'm a little intrigued, but I'm not completely sold yet."


BUT with that said, I'm trying your opener as well, because indirect game definitely has its place in my heart as well....I got some responses and I just sent the 2nd message, we'll see what happens

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I'm making this a little more difficult and only sending to girls that reply very selectively on okcupid. so far decent response and i've got one number close. Any suggestions when working with girls that reply very selectively?