ok i've f-closed before but i just dont really know exactly how. for example last night i went out to a club and danced with a hb8 and we made out while she was grinding on me. i even felt on her vag while dancing. we left the club together because we go to the same college and things were pretty awkward from there on out. i couldnt stop thinking about how im gonna fuck her later. she wanted to smoke and i said ok but unfortunately my connect was dry so no weed. after that we chilled in my room and i never f-closed. the whole time i felt like my game was terrible and that i was lucky to get that far.she ended up goin back to her dorm and thats it. i felt like i wassnt being interesting enough but then again i dont really kno what to do.

what would you guys have done differently that would've worked better?

Well, for starters did you even make a move when you got her back to your room?

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we made out briefly and then shit just got quiet she was kinda pulling away waiting for me to make things interesting again, but i bitched out i didnt know what to talk about. it sucks cuz i know this girl was a legit slut and i blew it.

dude..... just eat her out. Shes not likely to say no to that although some girls dont like that. But thats "making things interesting". Plus after that shes not gonna be lile "K thanks bye"..... and if she does fuck that bitch

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lol, i guess you could "just eat her out" like Octave said, but if you sleep with a lot of girls, that will get tiring and you could easily catch something....


But, don't ever say things like "I didn't know what to talk about". Talk about ANYTHING. Anything is better than making it awkward. Unless you are super shy and have severe social anxiety, not knowing what to talk about isn't a good excuse, because you have to try SOMETHING, even if it doesn't feel like the best thing in the world...


What works well for me and for a lot of my students is to put her hand on your cock after you've been making out for a little while...It works way better than trying to unhook her bra or anything like that...Naturals always put the girls hands on their cock, but in the pick up artist community nobody ever seems to do it, but it works a lot better

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lol its kinda funny that you say that cuz i always think about putting a girls hand on my cock as a first instinct. i just didnt think it would work at that moment. i guess im just lacking confidence at the moment. thanks guys.
anymore advice would be appreciated

Yeah, you gotta stop worrying about whether something is gonna work or not. You gotta do SOMEthing. You're coming from the mentality that you would rather do nothing than risk doing something that might get a "bad" reaction. You should be instead coming from the mentality that its better to try something than try nothing, because SOMETHING MIGHT get you laid, but NOTHING will almost 100 percent of the time NOT get you laid.

Next time you're stuck (in ANY part of the interaction with a girl) you just have to remember to try something, because that's the only way you'll learn and grow. Trying nothing is the best way to NOT make any progress. Cuz, whats actually important right now is learning and making improvements, not whether or not you got laid from one particular girl.

But anyway, be happy that you got a girl in your bed that you met from cold approach, whether you slept with her or not. Thats awesome and thats a lot better than a lot of other guys are doing.

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why does putting chicks hand on your cock work?

Do you just put her hand on it lightly or have her squeeze cock?

i usuallly put a girls hand on it lightly and shell do the rough part lol but i guees anything works

Definitely do it lightly, but that's exactly it. Awkward silence is sexual tension for only so long, take advantage of it!

Exactly, Slip N Slide knows the deal.....


@Refelex, the reason why putting the girl's hand on your cock usually works better is this: It comes from the idea of starting to undress yourself before you start trying to undress her. For instance, if we are in bed, usually I'll start unbuttoning my pants before I even take her shirt off. Then when my pants are a little unbuttoned, I'll put her hand on my cock and she'll take it the rest of the way. SHE CANT STOP YOU FROM GETTING UNDRESSED, BUT SHE CAN STOP YOU FROM UNDRESSING HER. Thats the biggest thing...If we're in the car, sometimes I'll just put her hand on my belt buckle and let her do the rest...

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