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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 8:33 am 
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Hi!

Im James, and im new at this forum. I discovered this circle on 2007 when googling on the net "how to pick up girls". I got into a longterm relationship in 2008 and since about a month im single, so i thought i get back into the "game" and learn to be attractive.

I read the MM again and its very interesting, BUT i figured i cant get results if i dont have the very basics down. Im talking body language

IMO this is thee most important aspect of being attractive. Its very powerful. So ive decided to not talk to women so much as working on my BL for quite some time.

Ive been writing down each BL part that i need to imprent in my daily life. The first thing i practice every day now, is NOT LOOKING AROUND. Ive done this for the past 1 week and a half and ive managed to be diciplined and focus mostly on whats ahead when i walk. This makes me feel really confident and good. I even get approached by some women for no reason.

The next thing i will practice for a couple of weeks is walking slowly, because i for one, can not practice two aspects of BL at the same time. One thing at a time is whats thee most effective way of learning it and doing it all the time.

So no approaches for me, until these stuff is taking care of.

Whats your take on that?


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:47 pm 
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Body language is very important and it is a very good idea to concentrate on it for a while, because it will help you in all aspects of your life (pickup, business, non-sexual social interactions, etc.)

BUT

"ive decided to not talk to women so much as working on my BL for quite some time"

and

"So no approaches for me, until these stuff is taking care of"

are signs that you are already creating habits that will severly extend your learning curve and postpone any "real" progress.

I`m no expert, but I strongly believe that APPROACHING is the heart of sucess with women and that you will learn much more and progress much faster, if you would JUST START APPROACHING WOMEN NOW!! Even if you don`t know any openers, your BL sucks or your voice cracks, just getting in the habit of approaching women will acellerate your progress much more than waiting and getting everything else perfected first.

Start now and work on the pieces as you go along because working on theory or parts of pick up without actully talking to women is (at least in my opinion) a surefire recipe for becoming a keyboard jocky . . .

Just my € 0,02


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:08 am 
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Body language is very important and it is a very good idea to concentrate on it for a while, because it will help you in all aspects of your life (pickup, business, non-sexual social interactions, etc.)

BUT

"ive decided to not talk to women so much as working on my BL for quite some time"

and

"So no approaches for me, until these stuff is taking care of"

are signs that you are already creating habits that will severly extend your learning curve and postpone any "real" progress.

I`m no expert, but I strongly believe that APPROACHING is the heart of sucess with women and that you will learn much more and progress much faster, if you would JUST START APPROACHING WOMEN NOW!! Even if you don`t know any openers, your BL sucks or your voice cracks, just getting in the habit of approaching women will acellerate your progress much more than waiting and getting everything else perfected first.

Start now and work on the pieces as you go along because working on theory or parts of pick up without actully talking to women is (at least in my opinion) a surefire recipe for becoming a keyboard jocky . . .

Just my € 0,02
Yes, i see your point. But how i see it is, i want to focus on one aspect at a time. I can number close really good, but can not get day 2:s. I have approached women alot, but i see no result. And i figured it must be my BL and voice for starters.

So the most logical thing is for me to go back to scratch and start slowly, so i dont have to think about my BL when i talk to women. I also talk to women to have that grease on me and not loose the skill,because as you say, i will end up a coward later on. So no worries there.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:45 am 
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When I talk to a girl at the bar and we are sitting facing the bar I turn and face her with me upper and lower body. As soon as she turns and faces me (as in swivels in her charm so her body is facing me) I know she is more interested and it is time to move to a new location to time bridge or escalate. Sometimes I pinch one of her knees between my knees and see is she squeezes back. If so, your doing well.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:13 pm 
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Body language is so important. You can project dominance and confidence to other people even when you don't have it inside you, which is my case. Of course, this can only get you so far so obviously you need to work on other aspects but it's a GREAT start. I'd say the foundation is great body language.

I have a business report writing class and we all have to go to the front of the class and simulate an interview. I bombed the test interview and was nervous as fuck, but the one thing I did well was keep a confident body language because I've been working on it for so long. I also went on stage for the first time last night. I got so nervous I forgot what I was supposed to say; it was incredibly embarrassing to say the least even though everyone was telling me its ok cause it was my first time. However, I'm almost positive my body language was alright. I definitely wasn't showing how scared I really was.

My biggest body language problem is still walking. I should probably do what you're doing and ONLY focus on walking, because I've had this problem for years. I tend to walk stiff and rigid at times.

Other great BL tips I've been working on..these I have down pretty good
--dont ever cross your arms or put an arm in front of your body..always have open BL
--When sitting down or standing keep a wider base with legs apart
--Put thumb in pockets and let the other fingers hang out

These I still need to work on
--shaking leg
--when I check a hot girl out I notice a lot I put my hand to cover my mouth, or even start shaking one of my legs or something else etc..I think its important to be able to check a hot girl out without reacting and giving her any sort of control
--Check out girls less..I tend to do this a lot. Its to the point where I check her body out without shame, but I never do anything about it. I never approach her. I feel unless I actually take action it's a weakness to stare.


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