Ok poodogr change your profile to mighty mouse and try the openers again. Leave your profile private or put something outrageous on it. Let me know how many response you get. OK I know what you're thinking a mouse? Are you kidding me? No

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'douchey' is good! Honestly...

My entire profile is totally douchey... I've got a couple of topless pics on there, and my entire description makes me sound like an asshole.

I don't know what else to tell you: it just seems to work on dating sites...

Don't take my word for it though: create a fake profile, and try it for yourself...
Feel free to re-use my profile if you want to save yourself time: http://www.onlinepua.com/2011/08/plenty ... ofile.html and download a random pic off the net that looks a bit like you, but in a more exciting context.

See if this yields better results...

When I got into the game, I resolved I'd have to change... Some of the things I tell girls go against my nature, but what's the point of sticking to what you're comfortable with if that doesn't bring results?

Agree, agree, and agree. Let's mess around with this some and I'll report back.

A common complaint I hear is guys don't make their profiles sexual enough. I saw this Neil Strauss thing which I believe was fake, and it was a personals ad where he talked about being able to fuck long and hard,etc. Really???!!

In the meantime, last time I put in my profile, "People I know say confidence isn't even an issue with me.". I snagged a date with a 27 year old Doctor.

The day of our date I got a txt to confirm., I said yeah, and she said, "great, I'm looking forward to it b/c you're so cool and all."

Needless to say, I was a little concerned.

We walked into the restaurant and a bachelorette party was right next to our table. It was noisy as fuck! I was stifled of course.

The girl said "you know, it's funny, you said in your profile that you're really confident. Well, you don't seem like that. She then made a quip about my parents' employment and my working for the gov.

So I guess the lesson I (thought) I learned was, "if you're gonna be cocky and confident in a profile, you better have the goods to back it up!"

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Here is the reason I use Mighty Mouse as an analogy. He is a little guy, but look how confident he looks. He is peacocking like a mother fucker. I garantee you girls will fall for him even though he is a cartoon and a fucking mouse.

I think the people you know are padding you. Dude I'm not tall or that good looking and I'm not needy either. My dad was a flirt and as a kid I felt awkward when he hit on younger girls in front of me. He just didn't give a fuck because he was already married. It then clicked with me one day what my dad was doing, he was teasing girls that were insecure and it worked. When I was thrown into the life, I was insecure and didn't know my left from my right when dealing with a girl. Even when a girl was throwing herself at me I didn't know what to do. I failed like 100 times before I succeeded once. Don't let this shit get you down. You will find what works for you and then and only then, will it seem effortless for you.

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You know what the secret of fucking long and hard is? It can easily be achieved by jerking off 30 minutes before you have sex with a girl. I make the girl suck my cock to get hard again. I can go 4-5hrs straight without viagra.

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Holy fuck guys!!

You were right on the money with that Mighty Mouse stuff.

True, some just didn't reply, but I haven't gotten this many replies this soon.

Here's the first real one that got traction (after like 5 mins, lol)



I went out for drinks with buds, then when I got back, she initiated chats with me. She did seem a little hung up on how much "the numbers improved" when I didn't use a real photo; said it was risky for a guy. She asked if I could send her a pie chart. I replied, "Oh no, you're one of those..."

By the way, this mighty mouse thing, at least how I'm using it, is to delete EVERY OTHER photo you've got on there. Let them be curious.

Oh, and guys, about that cartoon mouse thing, I LEAN INTO THAT SHIT. I keep saying stuff to girls like, "Well, I just don't want you to be disappointed when we meet and you learn that I'm actually not a cartoon mouse." I got some laughs out of that, and just tonight!!

So I got her email address to send real pics (you guys have them) Then the email that followed:



From: Phil
Date: September 11, 2011 12:47:33 AM EDT
To: REDACTED
Subject: Re: Mighty Mouse


Serial killer..? whaaaat? That's definitely a first for me. Those are great pics. Looks like you either have a thing for serial killers or you want to "reform" me lol. Either way, I'm game. Let's be in touch next week.

Best,

- Phil

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On Sep 11, 2011, at 12:38 AM, REDACTED wrote:


You look like a serial killer in pics 2 and 4, which means we completely have to hang out!

Seriously a drink sounds just fine in a public place with tons and tons of people around. How about Wed?

REDACTED, Name with job title/credentials next to name, number below

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On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Phil wrote:


Okay here’re some pretty decent ones of me.

- Phil

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I don't know where in the world she's coming from with the serial killer thing. She's referring to the slightly less cut one of me sitting down with the girl, and then the me standing up, leaning against a really awesome wall at Skybar with greenery and the LA skyline behind me. The cigar I was holding (only on occassion) was cut.

Maybe she was fucking with me...?... After all, I did kind of mess around with her, oh, and need I mention again, she wants to have a drink with me?!! As far as the "With tons of ppl around", maybe you guys would be better judges on what that's all about.

But anyway, fucks yeah man, I think I've found a way to stand out from the herd in this online thing, thanks to you guys, (but that sure as hell can't stop me from going out)

What do you think?

- Phil

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Lol...I'm glad it worked for you. I would recommend staying that way with your conversation when you meet the girl. Playfully tease her and use the push pull method. If you don't feel confident when you meet up with her she'll feel it. Go out get a nice dress shirt from Nordstrom or something. Well groom yourself.

As for your photos you should hire a photographer to take some good pics. There are a lot of cheap aspiring photographers on Craigslist.com you can rent.

on her reply I think she was being sarcastic about serial killer. She probably meant player.

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I've got a couple pointers.

Give some mystery.


First of all, hide some pictures, only have 1 or 2.

(extra: get pictures where you're not looking into the camera, but looking away)

other hint is to, put a "sketch" picture of you. if girls talk, you can "negotatiate" your picture with them.


That's all.

You’re not a bad looking guy (I'm far worse), but all the pictures are you on your own, the computer chair one is weird. I would say also do not include the car one, it’s always better to over deliver (e.g. when she sees it get a WOW emotional response!) than a "i already knew he had this car" kind of mental response.

I don't want to give too much away as i have written and released an eBook called Online Dating Explained, on the subject of online dating and if i give too much away no one will buy it! BUT here are a few free pointers:

Firstly for Pictures have pictures of you with your family, friends (female), some on your own, but above all else having fun.

With regard to the side note, while i do message girls who do not write me back with a "recovery" message, personally i would say that asking them for feedback is a complete failure because it means you are not confident and you actually care what they think, when i believe you need a "I’m the fucking man, if you don’t reply fuck you" approach.

I know that makes me sound like a complete and utter asshole, but really ponder this question for a few minutes and then decide if you think i am right?

"Do we really care what some women who doesn’t know us and if she doesn’t like us, is never going to know us thinks?”

Adam

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Just a warning on the mighty mouse thing...
it's against POF's terms and conditions to post pics other than of yourself (though cartoon versions or yourself are acceptable I believe).

If someone reports you, you will have your account terminated.

I suppose you can still do it with a fake profile (if you get IP banned, just reset your live box, and you should still be able to access your main account).

Depends on the pic. Most often than not they will just delete the pic.

I think the only similarity between ALL girls on POF is that for one reason or another they ALL crave masses of male attention.

I've f-closed 2 girls from POF, the most recent actually being 2 days ago. Both of which I noticed needed constant compliments to make themselves feel adequate. I later found out both had been messed around by guys a lot.

I asked the girl from Saturday on average how many messages she receives daily.. to which she replied 10-15! I get 1 if i'm lucky. It amazes me how female orientated the site is.

But just think.. out of those 10-15, if you don't find a way to stand out and make yourself deem worthy of her investing time in you - you're bound to see 'read deleted'!

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An interesting reply to an opinion opener:

"um ok.. i think u msgd me like a year ago? if i dont respond to ur first msg then im prolly not interested.. thx u and im blocking u to be safe"

Wow... really? It amazes me how stuck up and fucking snotty some girls are. I'd love to see them try that same snotty bullshit attitude in a questionable part of a city and see how long that lasts.

That's most the girls on that site.. they spend years on it and will never find anyone because the non-slutty ones never respond to the majority of their messages. Girls wonder why a lot of them end up being 30 alone and barraged by cats. Well maybe if they didn't spend their life only dating alphas/players and being complete stuck up snots to genuine nice guys, it'd be different.

Online/Offline game has gone from depressing me to severely pissing me off as of late. I'm just amazed at how stuck up and prude some people are online. At least women can be good liars offline.. they'll give you their number even if they have no actual attraction to you, they'll just never respond to they'll say "um this isn't *girls name*".

The emperor says there are a billion other girls online bro....take a chill pill and reinvent yourself. They want to act like bitches just leave them alone, because while I'm fucking some other girl at night, she is home alone.

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The sad thing is its really not that hard to stand out on POF. As most guys will send a girl "hey/whats up" type messages. Even just sending something about the girl's profile (assuming she has one there), will get a decent reply rate back.