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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:16 pm 
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Hello PUAs,
I've just been out for a week staying in a hostel, its definitely increased my game, even got f-close which is great but it has bought to my attention some sticking points which are really they key between success and failure. I'm really after some steering in the right direction because I don't know how to get past this

#1 is my ability to be funny.

-Since I've overcome a big chunk of approach anxiety I have no problem walking up to a group of sexy girls and starting a convo & getting a hook, the thing is all my mates feasted off of this "Jish go talk to them, go talk to them" so I do and get the set warmed up for 10 mins then they come in and basically steal the set by having a higher and funnier energy than myself.

-There were many situations during the week where I found myself being serious when it wasn't at all practical, it actually pisses me off I don't have that playful fun attitude that girls love and vibe off. Although, when I've had a few drinks I can be the center of attention, funny and definitely build attraction which is great because I have proof I can do it! Just I am not going to rely on alcohol to attract women

-Other situations are when I isolate the girl the convo turns dead serious because I am great at having a intellecutal serious conversation....well its all I know how to do, and when the sexual tension is there this is my sure fire way of killing it.

which brings me to #2- "The Window"

This is the card that always screws me over, its the part of my game if i fix I will take leaps and bounds

a girl told me on my trip that I "missed the window" I kinda like that analogy. So yes she was attracted to me and would have kissed me just I missed the window to do it in.

this is by far my hardest challenge. I know exactly what they mean because I full well know when im inside it, then i spend the next 4 hours trying to muster up the courage and the window is shut. to tell the truth I am shit scared of k closing. I have absolutely no Idea why and this is the part where if I overcome it the rest of my game would slot together and become a lot, a lot more congruent.

any advice would be greatly appreciated guys, thanks
Jish

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 7:40 pm 
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My solution:

Accept that you are gonna lose sets.

Tell yourself, today I am gonna lose 20 sets. Go out with the intention to sacrifice them in order to practice your timing. Try closing too early and work your way towards the right moment, zero in on the window and get it right. In the end you wont lose as many sets as you will if you keep missing the window.

They are collateral in your quest for better PU skills.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 8:22 pm 
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This is the card that always screws me over, its the part of my game if i fix I will take leaps and bounds

a girl told me on my trip that I "missed the window" I kinda like that analogy. So yes she was attracted to me and would have kissed me just I missed the window to do it in.

this is by far my hardest challenge. I know exactly what they mean because I full well know when im inside it, then i spend the next 4 hours trying to muster up the courage and the window is shut. to tell the truth I am shit scared of k closing. I have absolutely no Idea why and this is the part where if I overcome it the rest of my game would slot together and become a lot, a lot more congruent.
If you're escalating properly a kiss should not be a big jump - you should not be afraid to do it. In fact, you should be in a position where it is almost more difficult not to kiss her.

I think this is a great post:
chiefs-guide-to-outer-game-part-ii-vt96059.html

If you get close to her, hold her hand, play with her hand and she doesn't reject you, then you can kiss her any time you like. Just move your head close to hers so you're almost touching, and you're making solid eye contact (again if you escalated properly up to now, then this should not be a big thing), and it will happen...


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#1 is my ability to be funny.

-Since I've overcome a big chunk of approach anxiety I have no problem walking up to a group of sexy girls and starting a convo & getting a hook, the thing is all my mates feasted off of this "Jish go talk to them, go talk to them" so I do and get the set warmed up for 10 mins then they come in and basically steal the set by having a higher and funnier energy than myself.

-There were many situations during the week where I found myself being serious when it wasn't at all practical, it actually pisses me off I don't have that playful fun attitude that girls love and vibe off. Although, when I've had a few drinks I can be the center of attention, funny and definitely build attraction which is great because I have proof I can do it! Just I am not going to rely on alcohol to attract women

-Other situations are when I isolate the girl the convo turns dead serious because I am great at having a intellecutal serious conversation....well its all I know how to do, and when the sexual tension is there this is my sure fire way of killing it.
Since the other 2 replies are about your second question I'll do my best to give some advice with this.

It sounds like your friends have picked up that you have less AA issues than they do and more or less rely on you to open with girls for them before they come in and join in the convo. This is fine. But make it clear to them which girl your target is in any set so that they can blow her off if she gets interested in one of them, or so that they can DHV you to her. Also you could try convincing them to take it in turns with you in opening a set before introducing each other to them. this will improve all of your opening skills instead of just you having to to the awkward bit.

TL;DR
Get them to be wingmen and not competition.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:37 pm 
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My solution:

Accept that you are gonna lose sets.

Tell yourself, today I am gonna lose 20 sets. Go out with the intention to sacrifice them in order to practice your timing. Try closing too early and work your way towards the right moment, zero in on the window and get it right. In the end you wont lose as many sets as you will if you keep missing the window.

They are collateral in your quest for better PU skills.
Thanks Ezo, you always give such great advice. I never go out just to experiment, now, I think it's exactly what I need.
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If you're escalating properly a kiss should not be a big jump - you should not be afraid to do it. In fact, you should be in a position where it is almost more difficult not to kiss her.

I think this is a great post:
chiefs-guide-to-outer-game-part-ii-vt96059.html

If you get close to her, hold her hand, play with her hand and she doesn't reject you, then you can kiss her any time you like. Just move your head close to hers so you're almost touching, and you're making solid eye contact (again if you escalated properly up to now, then this should not be a big thing), and it will happen...
Great reply Prometheus, I had a look at that post and it made the whole process seem ALOT less daunting. You have a great point that the kiss close shouldn't be a big jump so I need to kino a lot more and not be scared to get in and show i'm keen, something that I will practice for now on
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Since the other 2 replies are about your second question I'll do my best to give some advice with this.

It sounds like your friends have picked up that you have less AA issues than they do and more or less rely on you to open with girls for them before they come in and join in the convo. This is fine. But make it clear to them which girl your target is in any set so that they can blow her off if she gets interested in one of them, or so that they can DHV you to her. Also you could try convincing them to take it in turns with you in opening a set before introducing each other to them. this will improve all of your opening skills instead of just you having to to the awkward bit.

TL;DR
Get them to be wingmen and not competition.
Yes Tidy! here I was thinking they were my competition and there is such a simple solution. It also saves being pissed off if they try steal the girl I'm after.

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