I have been dating a HB 10 (she's a model) and has guys constantly approaching her and complimenting her on her beauty. I met her on a online dating site, gamed her using pua techniques, got her number, and then called her after a year. We met, I Kiss closed, and now we have been seeing each other for 4 months. It's long distance by a 1.5hr drive so I see her every weekend. We talk on the phone all the time but that doesn't mean anything. She hasn't brought up to be serious; i asked her to be my gf in which she said to give it time; and I already told her I might be falling for her. I made a fake facebook profile of a hot model girl, and started chatting with my target. In the chat, I discovered that she has no feelings for me; has no passion for me; and does not "feel" the chemistry with me. Her reasons is because she describes me as a simple and boring guy. When asked what was it that made be boring, she said "he doesn't go out, just stays at home." When my fake character asks her whether she is looking for a party guy, she says "I just want him to hang out with friends, go out and eat at different places." To my defense, I am thinking, I do more than this braud. I have DHVed telling her I'm trying this exquisite dish in a great restaurant in the city; I'm going surfing; I travel to different places sporadically etc. I make her laugh and am creative when giving her gifts for special occasions. I thought I knew the game, but apparently, attraction is not a choice and I have failed to attract this girl. She has mentioned that she is giving it 2 more months (I think after her birthday in october) to see if she feels the same or whether she develops feelings. I don't know what to do after knowing all this inside information. I don't exactly want to change myself for her. Do I stop the frequent phone calls we have; exaggerate my social outgoing status; break the nice guy habit without making it obvious at the same time that I know of how she feels? Or is it over and I should just go my separate ways? I really like the girl, and if there is any way to salvage what I have, then I am all ears. I would appreciate all the advice I can get from you. Thanks!

Hey man, im sure this girl is killer and to die for, but i think you may have caught a premature case of Oneitise.

If this girl doesnt respect you, and is calling you boring, you shouldnt change what you do for her! Dont travel to random places and do shit you dont like just for her.
If she doesnt like you as you then thats as far as its going to go.
You have two options.

1. Read the sections on here about making her want you! you shouldnt claw for her she should want you.

2. (my suggestion) Move on, if you had to create a false profile to find out what she wants from a guy then she isnt for you. Move on there are millions of girls out there waiting to be gamed by you!

Hope this helped, and remember this is just one persons advice. (if u dont like mine try the chat on here they may be able to help!)

Good luck and happy hunting!

Thank you icsamrand! You are right. I did everything according to the techniques laid out here, and if she can't respect me for who I am, then she doesn't really deserve my time. Yeah, I have the case for oneitis really bad because I am looking for more serious prospects, not to hook up and I believed we were going to be serious. I didn't know she felt this way because when we hung out, we laughed, she would grab my hand and hold it, asked me about marriage, we were sexually intimate etc. Now today while I'm chatting with her with this fake profile and talking to her on the phone simultaneously, I feel in her voice like something is wrong. She says she'll call me later. Then she called me 2hrs later and I ignored her call. She calls me 1/2 hour later and I answer and keep it brief (although I am hurt without showing it too much). I ask her how her day went, and then tell her I have to go right now because I am with friends and we are about to hit the waves (surfing) and she says okay, no probs and talk later. I just don't know what to do next if I want to break it off to her without portraying the obvious that I used the fake profile to find out her true feelings.

Calling yourself an exquisite dish isnt DHV, its pleading.

giving her gifts when you've been dating for 4 months? Buying her affection.

This girl slapped you in the face, possibly moreso by putting this freakin deadline of 2 months. Makes no sense to me. I'd honestly dump her, who the fuck knows when the last time it happened to her, but your time is better spent on someone else. Also...well your attitude kinda screams "AFC" who just got lucky enough for a hottie.

How about this one? YOU WERE FUCKING SPYING ON HER! You logged online with a profile claiming to be someone else to try to see if she would be willing to cheat on you! That's fucked up no matter how you slice it, man, and goes beyond AFC and into an insecure child.

He didnt call himself an exquisite dish hahahahaha that would be pretty funny tho. he said he was eating one. lmfao

I will ignore DJ_Z rude statements. I'm not on here to start any beef. And read carefully before stating absolute nonsense. I "had an exquisite dish". Everyone has insecurities. To say that you don't have any would be ridiculous. And lastly, I was a loser with no pua tactics, and thanks to the knowledge of the game, I was able to get this HB10. Sometimes we are good at the getting the first stages down, but maintaining a long term relationship is a game in itself that a majority of puas fail. I am here just to learn and seek guidance. Not be humiliated.

Then i will simplify the matter.

You created a fake profile in order to talk to your girlfriend while she would assume she was speaking to someone else. This demonstrates a tremendous lack of trust between the two of you. A healthy relationship cannot exist without trust between everybody involved. Since you did this, you do not trust her for some reason. Since you do not trust her for some reason, your relationship is in trouble. That outweighs anything else going on here.

I created the profile being "a girl", AND NOT to see if she was cheating on me or that I did not trust her, but moreso to find out information of what her feelings were for me. Otherwise, I would be in a relationship that was a lie. What guy out here wouldn't wish he could read the mind of what his gf is thinking about him? Some ask their friends to find out info of what their gf thinks of them. I simply employed creating a fake friend, and it got the job done. Not because I didn't trust her, BUT because I wanted to know her intentions about me. And now I wonder if I should continue to talk to her and try and salvage this relationship by pua techniques, or should I just cut my losses and move on? That's why I am here!

You are a fucking man. If you wonder about what your girl is thinking ASK her.

You can't be less secure in yourself then creating fake profile. It's sad really. You don't trust her to tell you about her feeling and yet you want to be in a relationship with her.

And again. For fucks sake. Chating with your girl using fake profile... Really?

If she find out and has an ounce of self-respect she'll rip you a new one.

Now, now.

I think he was just getting in touch with his.. feminine side.. when he created that fake profile. Don't be too hard on him, lads.

Jokes aside, if you have the answers to what is missing, why don't you work with them? Do everything that she expects from you, and while people here will shout that "leave her!", the truth is that she has a point. No one wants to be seen with a stay-at-home guy. We are all social animals, not furniture.

But, if the girl is not really that interested, there is nothing you can do except a major overhaul of the way you talk and act around her to get that interest back. If she's not happy with the current you, either you can become a new version of yourself or you can find someone else who is.

Good Luck.

Oh, and another thing..
Says who?

The maintaining a relationship part is a choice, not an ability.

Choose your words carefully next time.

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" You're born alone and you die alone and this world just drops a bunch of rules on top of you to make you forget those facts. But I never forget. I'm living like there's no tomorrow, because there isn't one. "

FYI, I was a MAN and I asked her straight up if she liked me or not. I even gave her the option that if she doesn't like me, then she can leave with no hard feelings. And she keeps telling me she LIKES ME. So there you have it. Who is deceiving who?

As long as you envision "maintaining your relationship" as a part of a game, you'll continue to flounder. I am glad that this board has a relationship section, but make no mistake about it--the more games you have to play to keep your relationship exciting and valid, the less healthy it will be.

To put that idea another way... Either you are an actor in your relationship, or you are you. Which do YOU prefer?
Why was this ^ not good enough?

The answer to the second question will inform the first.

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- Lux et Veritas -

You are being controlled.
Act (yes act) like you don't know anything more than she told you.
Cut the fake profile shit and go meet other women. Make friends. Lots. Let her know BUT not in a way that should make her think you specifically want her to find out.
As you get to see more girls, become harder to get (this includes less contact) and if you don't screw up to much you will get her. Else you get less stress, more time, experience and the other girls. In both cases you win.

And if you STILL want to get her, cut all contact and try again in like one year or so.

And never, ever, do the same mistakes you did now.

Update:

I gave her a freeze out. I told her I was going to hang out with my friends, go out more, and she came to find out all these girls that were hitting on me. She called me up and said that she misses me, she is sorry, and was extremely pissed that I would let other girls flirt with me (jealousy). Possible IOIs. I am beginning to see what the route of the problem was. I simply told her that I love her and she felt guilty that she did not love me or have those feelings yet for me. Thus, she didn't want me to feel left out so she suggested I move on and find someone else who could give me those feelings. She later realizes that she indeed has feelings for me and now she constantly calls me all the time ever since the freeze out. She knows I have options and yet, she doesn't want to leave me. We had a deep talk, and I explained my expectations. I even told her that I am just going to be me, and that if she's looking for a partier, buff guy, then she should not waste my time because I got other people who deserve my love. That really threw her off and she has been the nicest soul ever since. To the point where she says she wants to drive up to see me and give me the greatest bj of my life. I guess things are going well.

That was fast.
You did good, congratz.