Just to set the scenario, I have physical education class two days a week on tuesday and thursday and the other three days I have a study. I also am a complete beginner to this pua stuff so any help is greatly appreciated, although I have read the game and mystery's book. There is this girl (about an 8ish) who is in my gym class and my study. It seems like we somehow always end up on the same teams in gym or walking next to each other in the hallway yet we never talk or anything, she probably doesn't even know my name. However I am no where near her in study and its a quiet study hall. I guess my best bet would be to try to talk to her during before or after gym class. How should I go about opening her or even getting to know her name or introduce myself to her? Would it be creepy to just start talking to her?

Thanks a ton guys
-HardlyThere

Just start talking to her..

And gauge her reaction.. You might throw in a few lite negs if appropriate.

No need to introduce yourself if you don't plan on closing.. In fact could be better that you don't.

Don't face her directly or come on too strong, unless you're getting a ton of IOI's or you might scare her off. Keep it short and sweet to start, then back off and push the ball a little further next time you see her. Of course it's a process.

For instance, you might ask her what she does when she's not in class.

Think of dangling yourself in front of her.. Like a worm when fishing.. Tease her, etc.. Smile and make lite eye contact with her when you speak to her.

And remember, you can't make a banana out of an apple. If she's not responsive don't sweat it and don't waste your time. That's DLV and AFC behavior. Let it all roll off your sleeve like it's really no biggie.

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Her being "near" you at times like you mentioned may be a consious or subconsious form of a proximity IOI. It may not be but it does give you a good chance to open.

Next time you notice her walking in the same direction as you, or getting on the same team as you, say something like...

YOU: "Hey are you stalking me?"
or
YOU: "Hey stop following me."

Dont even let her answer, then use an opinion opener. When she starts to say something just go...(remeber if the 2 of you are walking along be in front of her, off to one side a bit and talk over your shoulder as you move along...start to slow down a little as you are opening..**DO NOT aproach her from behind**)

YOU: "Hey i need female opinion on something and you look like a girl, Do you think its ok to break up with someone in a text message?"

HB: blah blah...

YOU: "By buddies trying to break up with his girlfriend but doesnt wana do (x,y,z...however she responded, like 'no its better to do it in person') because his girlfriend has been acting really possesive lately, you know like screening his calls and asking people what hes upto."

I used the above as an example, use whatever relavent opener you can. In a 1on1 set i prefer "female opinion" type openers.

Get her attention with the opener, make fun of her for "stalking" you(Negs). Disqualify her, and look for signs of compliance/IOI's. Work up a little bit of kino, a tap of the elbow when you make a point..w/e.

You should have some DHV stories/material to work with after the opener, Negs are usually improve (not always but i prefer these). After that it really depends on what you do, just remeber not to act intrested, at least not too soon.

If she doesnt match your pace (ie: if your moving and you slow down and she doesnt) or loses intrest, maybe gets distracted by a call or a friend...DO NOT stand around waiting for her. Open someone else in front of her, or simply leave.

Other then this i cant think of anything helpful to say, gl.

-Ka-

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I totally agree. With the last guy. Try using the cat or dog person routine also. I used it a few times and it woked every single time, get her to laugh.

Ka gave you some great ideas and i am a fan of using the cat and dog routine. Another opener that I think is a great one is ...

You: You must be shy
Her: what?
You: I have been in your class for ___ days/weeks or I have seen you in the halls ____ times and you havent introduced yourself to me!
Her: Ha Ha well im (her name), blah blah (doesnt matter because you just opened her)

Now use one of the routines above^^^ or on the forum
Good Luck

Keep it simple dude..

Ok, you want to get noticed? This is what you do..

Next time you're walking next to her, make eye contact, smile and say "let's go make out".

Works for me.. Most chicks that are worth pursuing laugh and think it's funny. You can most probably get away with this because of fact that you have something in common with her.

Think strong frame.

Of course this requires balls of steel, so most guys want to use smaller steps, to avoid making her and themselves uncomfortable in case she says 'let's go' ... So you can just make eye contact, smile and see if she responds in kind.

You could also introduce yourself, tell her name is Casanova, then ask her if she wants to go get some lunch sometime (the Casanova bit is better used when a girl asks your name). If see says she can't, it doesn't mean she wont. Ask her again in a day or two and keep her wondering about your name. If she says that's not your real name, say.. that's just what the girls you know call you, and use your real name as a reward or something at some point down the road after you have her hooked. Takes a few balls to pull off, but just smile and play off the mystery and intrigue. Women love intrigue.

Remember you have something in common with this girl as well as like some mentioned, proximity. So there's no pressure to act, or miss your chance forever.

I'm not too fond of the 'are you stalking me' sort of lines.. Because to me they interject a degree of insecurity into the interaction, even in jest. The subject of stalking can be a scary thing for a lot of girls. Although they can work with the right delivery. Heck anything can work with the right delivery.

This is better.. say.. "If you keep following me around, it's going to hurt your reputation". This acknowledges her ASD, and shows her you get it.

Although the problem with any of this if the girl hasn't displayed any interest in you at all, it can appear somewhat forward. So I'd say the first step is to get noticed. You can accomplish this with nothing more than eye contact and a smile.

Just do something.. You know the deal, you'll never catch the fish if you don't throw your hook in the water.. And you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

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Im a beginner too but i do believe the three second rule makes sense. Just relax and dont think until you initiate the conversation then work in some readings or something because i think you are referring to a school girl. It might be better to approach her in a group and use neg's to gain the attention then pull her in every now and then but wait till you can isolate her.

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I like the are you shy thing but what it she is a bitch about and says something like "Well maybe I didn't want to introduce myself to you" What could I say to that?

She wont say that.. If you are walkin next to her, and you are nervous to even start talking at a random time like that just bump her like someone pushed you or make an excuse that you are clumsy, or say Hey watch were your going you almost knocked me over, or hey do you always push ppl around like that! then just ask her if you've seen her before.. then just run normal game or routine, throw in a neg if you didnt already. If you are in gym you could do the same thing when you are on a team.. Just make the first meet short and sweet. laugh smile!! if you dont she may think your an ass you kno

Starbuck: That Casanova thing's good. I just realised I've been doing pretty much the same thing with a girl in my Business Environments seminar. She asked me what my name was, because she'd forgotten, so I said I was God. Everyone started joking around and saying I was called Clyde or Bartholomew, and eventually someone said my real name and she doesn't realise that it is my name. She's calling me by my real name, because she says it suits me, but she doesn't realise that that's my name and she keeps trying to trick me into giving her my name.

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Thanks for all your help guys!! I'm gonna try to talk to her next week in school. I'll post how it went here after.

Yeah man, chicks love mystery, adventure and intrigue.. I mean just watch womans TV, or read some of their romance novels sometimes..

And definitely go rent the movie Casanova. It makes some interesting points for aspiring PUA's.

Anytime you can interject sexual innuendo, or romance into a conversation with a woman it's a good thing. Just be indirect about it. And do it with eye contact, and a devilish grin on your face. What I like to call the half assed smile.

You'll become the talk of her female social circle. And next thing you know you'll have strange women coming out of the word work trying to get you to notice them too.

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If your in class together just ask her a question about some home work or assignment, then simply ask her name, that simple then start gaming her, it seems like your shy so just start with something simple, good luck.

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