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PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:46 am 
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If we view 'this' as a game paying for sex can be regarded as using a cheat code. As long as you have the dough and prostitutes are readily available where you live you can easily obtain sex. Rather than it being a mutual thing between two people it's turned into a 'service' for the 'client'.

I've been paying for sex for many years now and it's the only form of sex I have had. It feels somewhat good knowing I can get sex whenever I want and that the hookers usually seem to enjoy it etc. But I can never get over the fact that it is 'cheating' and that I'm only getting sex because I'm paying money for it.

Sometimes I think since I'm not getting sex by any other means I might as well use hookers. As in, I let myself blow my money because I want sex by any means - it's only because I don't have a girlfriend or casual partners that it costs me a fortune. But I think even this mentality is bad.

I think I can manage to go without sex, I never feel desperate for the need to have sex, but for some reason I always find myself at the brothel anyway. Even when I'm more interested in saving money as opposed to women I still go. And it's been going on like this for quite some time now.


So, my primary objective in my life at the moment is to get unpaid-for-sex. And I don't think this can be achieved by 'giving up' and visiting a hooker again because it just puts me back into that weird state of 'contentedness' where I'm happy just paying for it as opposed to trying to develop a bit more 'realness' and meaning in my love/sex life. Time and time again I have used the cheat code which takes the fun out of the game.
Haha that's exactly me. Yesterday i was bored as hell since my friends canceled out our plans and i went to the brothel, not horny at all. It was because i was bored lol.

The last part of your post might also be a bit true for me..
Maybe i should also quit going to the hookers, for the sake of saving the money and investing more time in pua
It's not a problem for me now, but quitting early is good to avoid whore addiction.
But after all, i love using cheat codes, i never play a game without cheatcodes lol.

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its both good and bed :

it is good since you are not depend on the good will of woman to get sex.
and you enjoy life .....
if you have fear of touch - you will loose your fear , and it is good

it is bed , since you may feel that the woman you had been with - dont enjoy the sex.
you may learn that sex is not fun for a woman
that you are aselfish person that you want sex
etc .
and it can hurt your inner game so you might think that woman actually donnt like sex and you dont have what to offer.

i think that key for good influence on game is BALANCE :

the number of woman you slept with for monet should always be of the number of woman that had sex with you because they had enoyed it.
or something similar.

i went to a lot of hors and i think it hurt my inner game and made me feel unsexy


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I agree with the post that said "we all pay for it".

Sex is a commodity, and it has a value. Whether that value is a bar tab, two dinners at a fancy resturaunt, and desert at a cafe, or the $150 equivalent that dose of Vitamin P still had a cost.

People can get all high and mighty about it, but at the end of the day, sex has costs and your mileage may vary. If some lame slutty attention whore rolls up to you at a club and whispers into your ear "i want to fuck you" and you dump a load in her in the bathroom, chances are that's all your going to get from her (besides the herp). If however you meet a sweet innocent take home to momma type catch, and it takes 2-3 weeks of wining and dining and blue balling to convince her to come to your place and get the job done, she's probably LTGF material and worth the investment.

$0 = herp
$500-1000 = LTGF

Looking at it that way, paying $150-$300 for a potentially pretty/gorgeous girl to let you do whatever you please with her seems a lot like fast food to me. A home cooked steak takes time and love, and tastes delicious, it also costs about $10-15 in ingredients plus time. It's way more satisfying, but when you don't have time and you're hungry NOW, a 5-guys burger for $6 certainly fills the belly and tastes great.

Should you eat it all the time? NO. If you do will bad things happen? YES. Is it a big deal once in a while? HELL NO. In fact America is built on convenience at a premium. So why should the oldest commodity on earth be any different that moderately priced meats.

I'm not saying women are a slab of meat and should be treated like one, but damnit, what the hell is the difference if the end result is the same, and the cost is equivalent.

For those of you who are AFC challenged, a good hook up by any means necessary is sometimes what you need to get back on the horse and back in the race.

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I would not pay a professional prostitute... But:
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I'd go up to 1500.00 if she'd also be my wing-women when we're done.

1500.00 is not................


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What is the overall effect of paying for sex on game and social shyness?
There is no "overall effect"--meaning that it depends on where you are, what's going inside your head.

I'll start with my story:

When I was young (high school age), I was way below AFC. I couldn't talk to the HB who wrote me a fawning 5 page letter begging to be my GF; I could do no more than mumble and walk away when she asked me to dance at our graduation party. And in other ways I was one of those guys who from the outside had it going on (looks, co-captain of the football team, "cool crowd" guy-friends), just AA in spades.

After HS I joined the army and was sent to Germany, and in those (long gone) days it was the custom for your platoon to chip in to send the new guy to local eros.

They did, I did, and I can tell you that it was damned anti-climactic.

What I learned from the experience was only that I could "perform"--like most guys that age I'd read so much about problems with "stamina" and ED (can't get it up), that they'd become near phobias. Nope. Knowing this did nothing for my AA, only caused me to switch to other irrational fears.

I have not been with a prostitute since then. But--I have a thing for strippers, and if I go out to a club I'll usually drop $100 or so. I tip enthusiastically and chat up every single girl--also tip and walk away, never pay for a lap dance. I'm basically throwing money in a way that is a DHV, and practicing my game on these girls.

I end up taking a high percentage of them home (over the years).

These girls may not be prostitutes, but they are definitely sex workers, and I am definitely spending money. This affects the rest of my game positively. It's like this: if I can chat up a girl who is naked (or practically so), in a sexually charged SPAM, then a girl at a nightclub or coffee shop is easy pickings. (Though the game is somewhat different.)

Back to paying for it directly: I can think of a couple of situations where it won't hurt and might do some good:

* You have big performance anxiety
* You have a long dry spell (or extra-prolonged virginity)
* You want to try something sexually experimental

When I think it would harm most guys' game:

* If you think of it as an alternative to the hunt/chase
* If you spend your emotional energy on it (planning, anticipating, remembering)
* If you already have low self-esteem and think it's "bad"
* You've already been addicted to porn/masturbation

The last two are game killers. I have, by the way, dated prostitutes. I like sex-workers in general--though there's the same variation you find in the rest of the population--and there's the bonus of many of them are fierce about not being paid for when they are not working, to create a barrier between personal and professional.

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What is the overall effect of paying for sex on game and social shyness?

It is not masturbation, (which is adverse to game) but still makes me unsure of its effects. Is it really bad for game or in fact good for game?

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