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 Post subject: oh yeahhh
PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:12 pm 
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ok, so going out in abit, saw 2 gorgeous girls at shops near my house yesterday, but was with sister working so didn't approach, gunna pop down and see if i see them again, if not onto normal town to do some approaching.

Today, Im mainly going to focus on body language and tonality. here are 4 pointers I want to make sure im doing.

-Speak loudly, so im heard, but clearly and slowly, with pauses. (ive noticed I talk far too quickly)

-Make eye contact the whole time

-Stand with my head up, shoulders back, general confident body language

- After I deliver the opener, im going to rock back slightly as a FTC.

daym i really wished i had a wingman to observe this, ah well update soon!

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 Post subject: every set
PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:05 pm 
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hey, yesterday I realized i was not committing enough to this.

I can approach, but I always wait for the "easy set", where theres not that many people around, and its easy and takes no change in direction from me to approach, basically where im not putting myself out at all. im just waiting for them to come to me as i walk around.

Not good.

So today, im going out, and im gunna approach every set i see. whether theyre on the other side of the road, walking ahead, behind, on there own or in a mixed set, im gunna approach, using 2 different openers.

Then im gunna keep doing this, until i get good, and learn not to get rid of AA, but to accept and deal with it

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 Post subject: :)
PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:34 pm 
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just got in from town. had fun, opened nice HB set, coulda opened more but was focused on getting a job, spoke to alot people bout that.

going out in bout hour and half to club, should be good, gunna have fun, open as many sets as possible, use good few routines to gain alot social proof with girls, just do what i would do if i had no fear. not gunna use opinion openers will either just go "direct to group" or use situational, hey maybe even throw in direct opener.

just gotta remember to qualify, that seems to be difference between getting with girl for one night and meeting her after imo

update soon!

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 Post subject: worst night out everr
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:30 am 
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wow. that was bad. like, really really really bad. Got there, and place was abit empty. went to main dancefloor bit, only few groups, wanted to start approaching asap, so went up to one. just asked if this was all that was coming (maybe too negative), and introduced myself. Kept on doing this. Nothing was going anywhere, but not only that, the girls were clearly not into it

like, id go up and start talking to them, and theyd just be bit like wtf. it doesnt make sense, the only times i was able to get a half decent convo going was smoking area, hmm i think when im 18 and go clubbing weekly, im gunna have to start smoking haha!

but yeah, in the end i resorted to just going up to girls and trying to dance with them, didnt work. whole night was a total fucking disaster and i ended up leaving early.

But not for lack of trying, i tried it all, approaching normally, asking to dance, just going up to girls and dancing with them, all went to shit. the only other step was just lunging in and trying to get with girls, and i werent bout to start that shit.

Fuck it, i tried and failed, many times. Rather that then be one of them dicks standing at the side of the floor, or one of them dicks pretending that theyve come here cos they like to dance, i mean come on seriously, we're guys, unless we actually have learnt it and know how, we dont wanna dance. A good night out to us is having a beer and laugh with the lads, the only reason we go to a club is for girls, why fuckaround? either way, niether of us got any.

2 things learnt:

1) when i start going clubbing properly, need to learn how to dance for dancefloor game

2) need to make sure theres an area where is bit quieter to talk

oh, another thing, i realized something crazy. its all a fucking illusion man. all of it.
I dont mean to be arrogant, but I had more going for me than most in that club, im a funny intelligent guy, whos intouch with his values and motivated. I can protect myself and others better than probs all people in there, yet, i probably had some of the lowest social value there. Obviously top were the attractive girls, then the social circle guys (ones who came with and know attractive girls) then the rest. Its like, you could be a tramp with a haircut and some nice clothes, walk into a club, and if you know how to go into multiple sets and get them interested, you can be the best motherfucker in there, pull any girl you want, no matter who you are or what you look like.

I can see why a magician was the first main guy to get this

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 Post subject: crashin n burnin
PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 6:07 pm 
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So, went out today. Felt good, in tried to be in state ASAP and just have fun. had a job interview so thought id try and get out bit earlier to practise.

On way felt good opened just asking bout bus times, but could feel there responding to my good state.

Got to town, and probs wasted little too much time, though werent any sets for abit. Just chilled and did my thing, went round good few shops, then ahead of me was seated 2 set. Went over ran opener (friends bday) and went ok. good thing i did hear was tease/neg them, by joking "well you guys were useless" which got good response.

Went for job interview, (only mcdonalds, lol) this stuff really can be applied to that area, as i made sure i was instate and confident, yet still friendly when i had it. guess whether i get it or not will make difference lol

anyway, on way out, walked past great 3 set sitting at table, these girls were hottt, probs older around 20, but fuck it i thought wow will regret if i dont go for it. id already walked past them, so i went and sat a little up ahead, then made a phonecall, then went into shop adjacent, came out and opened with same opener as above

Me: hey can i ask you a question?
Them: (looking at me for a bit) NO. joking yes
Me: (if this plane going down im going down with it)

from here ran opener they were little off, bitchy until one of them came out with answer "punch her in the face" at which point i thanked them and left lol

how should i have handled this?

should i have teased/negged them to "disarm the bitchshield", or would this have made it worse?

Should i just have gone direct? or would this have made it even worse lol

I read that so called "bitch shield" etc is often just girls feeling a little intimidated/nervous at the situation, but here that generally didnt seem to be the case, they just seemed to be abit pissed off i approached lol? strange, maybe there just unkind people

update soon!

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 Post subject: trying direct game
PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:46 pm 
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hey, this is just a preparation post

tommorow, gunna go out and try some direct game. It would be great to be the guy who just goes for what he wants with no shame, so here goes!

Im planning on using the opener

"Hey, im sam and i just had to come and see who you are"
"you look just like this girl i met out in portugal..." and go from there

even if i get blown out, i dont care, i just mainly wana see which i prefer, going indirect or direct

update soon

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 Post subject: Re: trying direct game
PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:10 pm 
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hey, this is just a preparation post

tommorow, gunna go out and try some direct game. It would be great to be the guy who just goes for what he wants with no shame, so here goes!

Im planning on using the opener

"Hey, im sam and i just had to come and see who you are"
"you look just like this girl i met out in portugal..." and go from there

even if i get blown out, i dont care, i just mainly wana see which i prefer, going indirect or direct

update soon
when i read this stuff i feel their is too much technicality like a science, you're telling me people didnt get women when they didnt know this stuff for thousands of years? i guess its one thing to know that you should tease a girl but these field reports sound more like a chemistry hypothesis to me... keep it up if it works but just saying, sounds like its over complicating a simple thing which is to talk to girls in a friendly way without coming off as a creep or needy.


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 Post subject: interesting
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:47 pm 
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saugnoob its interesting that you say this, cos so many times have i thought this same thing "surely getting women shouldnt be this hard! other people can do it so much more easily, why cant i!" and this is part of the reason i want to go direct.

im rather shamed to say it, but i havnt actually done a direct approach yet even though ive been meaning to in last few days. Today, I just feel completely out of state and shitty, not physically but mentally. I know its just negative thought patterns, but i cant help but think people are having more fun than me, and im somehow a loser because i need to do this stuff and cant get girls naturally.

Need to snap out of this. bleh

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 Post subject: failed to approach
PostPosted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:29 pm 
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Ok, just went out with intention to approach directly. Wasnt a great deal of sets about, but as i was walking, across the road stunning blonde was crossing the road. Im like dam, gotta do this, I feel my core saying go for it, I start walking towards her, then as she walks past me, all I can do is hold eye contact.

DAM! ah well, i went out anyway, thats important thing, just to keep going out with intention. I will go direct during daytime by end of this week!

update soon

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 Post subject: oh right
PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:41 pm 
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dam this is like third time ive tried to post, keep getting interrupted

Ok, so just update on situation SPAM.

just gone back to college, lotta girls, think im gunna read up on some college game.

Went to fancy dress party weekend, was great for peacocking as i walked through town to get there, i went as a greaser, so not too OTT, which was good because it ment people thought that was generally how I dressed (on way to party) I could see the way people were looking at me, guys seemed a little intimidated, girls seemed intrigued.

so at the party, no HB;s at first so i just have a good time. Then, these twins come in. (triplets actually, but the other werent there) Im like, ok cool. One of em is my mates target so at first im just winging him, i steal her hat, then go and give it to him to play however he likes. I notice her twins pretty hot, so im like why not. She seems abit shy so i just go in and sit next to her having a laugh with others around her. good social proof.

anyway, go to dancefloor and its on, make out a few times, and then hang out after just having a laugh, she has a really good sense of humor which is great on girls, hopefully werent just the booze.

Anyway, seems like the mystery method, which is pretty much what i try to use (attract then qualify mainly) is like, a natural process when getting on a girl. Its like, these things have got to happen anyway to really hit it off with a girl.

I dont know, maybe im rambling, anyway, yeah, i should ask, how do you go from seeing one of the triplets, to all 3! haha soz gotta ask!

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 Post subject: oh yeah
PostPosted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:20 pm 
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just got in from town

Wasnt even really planning on approaching, but once i was out thought hey why not, was with a mate who knows about game, but doesnt really bother anymore, dont get it. anyway we see one cute girl, so im like ok lets do it, but she disapeers down alleyway, wait around abit and go sit inside (its getting dam cold now!) when i see these 2 stunners on a bench

Im like, fuck, ive got to. Im nervous and scared cos theyre so hot but at the same time, i know its what i need to do. I use opener "me nd mate been invited to party, gotta dress up as something beginning with F, what could be?" went really well, teased them on answers they were laughing, this time instead of bailing i started trying to go further (asked few questions) I still bailed too early though, coulda been on for # close, o well live nd learn

from now on all my openers shall be from real life. We all must have at least one thing we could ask about which is quite interesting.

the best thing about todays approach was that my core was telling me "approach, theyre hot" and I did. I didnt let social conditionings or any other bullshit get in my way and i went for it

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 Post subject: how do I deal with this
PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:09 pm 
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Ok, girl I got with last week at party, shes frigid (ill be her first) and reallly clingly, all that for only a HB7? only if ive got nothing better

which is where the problem is, going to under 18 club thing tonight, shes going to be there, so if i go and get with other girls, shes gunna be upset (meaning her friends and sisters will be upset = drama) I will feel abit bad as will have ment have strung her along abit, however if i just stay with her and settle for HB7 (will be 8's and 9's) ill feel shit cos i aint going for what I want...how do i deal with this!

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 Post subject: change of focus
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:45 pm 
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Hey, update from last post. Saw the girl from the party, got with her (she was CBing all night on other chicks, so kinda forced into it) and after basically told her all Im after is no strings attached fun, expected her to be wierd but shes cool with it. cool.

Anyway, today something occured to me, im so focused on cold approach, im forgetting, theres plenty of girls at my college ready to game! sure it'll be different but thats no reason to just ignore them. I wanna kinda change my game around, so Im good with women in general through general principles and behaviours (cocky/funny for example) and still also have the skill to cold approach when presented with an opportunity to do so. im not saying routines dont work, they do aswell as push pull etc

but i wanna focus on the foundation or "natural" elements first. Tonight Im gunna come up with this basic foundation of behaviours to be attractive to women, after all theres no use in knowing a great routine which conveys pre-selection, if your still giving off you see women as above you non-verbally

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 Post subject: foundations
PostPosted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:25 pm 
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foundations

Challenging her: Not bowing down to her and being intimidated just because shes a hot girl. Need to show you have more power, you wont just give it away, shes got to earn your respect. Of course, this does not mean being outright rude, still be human to her, but challenge her a little, let it be known you dont care if she doesnt like you.

Teasing her: having banter basically. Being able to tease her and have a laugh, and get that “your soo mean” response, in a playfull way. This is teasing for self-amusement in a almost affectionate way, not just being a prick

Being Dominant: Being dominant with her, basically “frame control” Your controlling the convosation, your the one whos “the man” I.E what you say goes, if your talking to her, she will listen, if not, you get her attention in a non-needy way and joke around saying “rudeness!” having the frame of whatever you want in that moment, from we are having a interesting convosation, to im a high value guy your attracted to.

Not taking shit: basically not letting her fuck with you. If shes rude you call her on it, you set your standards, tell her them and expect her to live up to them


Ok thats what I can think of as the main foundations you need. lol ive just realised this looks like im trying post "my method on how to get girls" its not that, its just more of a hypothesis im gunna try out

my main aim tommorow is to just talk to a few hot girls in my college, and be challenging, teasing and dominant. update soon

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 Post subject: logistics
PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:12 pm 
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Havnt updated this in a while, been doing alot of inner game stuff.

anyway, this weekend im gunna start approaching again, been week or so since i last did. My new method, is really advanced.

Its called practice. Lots and lots of consistent practice, its what ive been missing this whole time.

Anyway, ive been looking out for places to go do this seeing as I want to start getting more practice. Ive noticed 2 times which i didnt even think about before, its funny how changing your mindset does change perception:

lunchbreaks. These are great, my local village, normally dead, becomes target rich weekday lunchtimes. lots of college girls

Weekend evenings in town: Was walking back from mates saturday evening, out 7ish, daym, it was full of girls! Im pumped to get back out there!

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