it's happened to me once before, I can get the comfort and rapport and stuff but when it comes to attraction I'm not as good. I already messed up with one girl and I'm in the middle of messing up another. my question is how do I get past the ljbf stage? thanks

Try using more kino?
Without that connection and no sexual tension she will just place you in that dreaded friends zone. When you meet new girls make sure you get the touch thing going on. Something as simple as saying "Your hands are small." with a smile and holding out your hand and having her place hers in yours to compare. Hope that helps a little .

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yeah, I did some research and thats what I've started to do so we'll see how it goes. I was wondering if there was anything else I can do besides kino?

You could do a cold reading on her and implement some kino in it. Cold reading is great for creating attraction. Moreover you could use some other DHV-routines such as ESP which has become one of my personal favorites.

Since you're already stepping into the LJBF stage, you should be able to comfortably tell DHV stories about your sex life. If you don't have any good stories, make sure that your conversations are sexually charged. In a flirtatious way and not in a creepy way.

I am in a situation similar to this, and what I am doing is basically telling her I don't want to be her friend. If you are alone with her, tell her you want to kiss her and see what happens. If you feel like you can go in for the kiss do it. If she says some bullshit about just wanting to be friends, just tell her you have enough friends who are girls, and you don't need any more.

Obviously, don't be a dick about it but keep reinforcing the fact that you want to be more than friends with her and if you can't be that, then you are not going to just be her friend.

While I am in the same situation I do not know if this is the right move, but I suggest being more sexual around her (trying to kiss her in a non creeper way, talking about more risque things, etc). Never just have a friendly chat with her or anything like that, she needs to know that you want to be more than friends and that you don't mind not having her as just a friend.

You have to truly ask yourself if you want to keep her as a friend if more than friends doesn't work out. This advice will probably only be doable if you don't mind losing her as a friend. However, the rewards could be great.

thanks for the help everyone i'll see how it goes...

Do a search for SOIs and Kino escalation. Then use both.

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