My question is.. do girls run game on guys in certain situations? My example would be if you were talking to a 2 set and how a pua would pay more attention to the obstacle vs the target. I was wondering if girls do the same to guys, say you are with a friend and she is talking to your friend mostly... is she just interested in him and not you or is she trying to run the same game we do?

Dude, girls learn to run game LONG before we are even interested in them.

Saqcheck, you answered that so great, I offer a medal to you sir. If girls didn't run game, we wouldn't have to learn a different game to claim their prizes.

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girls game, but they do it by instinct. their game is opposite of ours, men try to get in as many chicks pants as possible, most girls try to sleep with as few guys as possible. Can you imagine what the world would be like if the average woman was as willing to sleep with as many men as we are?!?!?!

yeah those are good points but it didnt really answer my question of if you were with a buddy and she was talking to him and not you? Its in the inital post

Women don't have to run "game" as we view it. All they have to do is stand there. We generally do the rest. She's not going to talk to him and ignore you if she's interested in you. Their game doesn't work like that. Women can get away with coming up to a guy she's interested in and closing (number, f-close,etc) without little to no chance of rejection.

I don't agree at all. Girls run game, its just different than ours. They do specific things to get certain results, but they also do the majority of it by insticts. Take for instance, the common "Shit Test". In a lot of ways, I find it similar to our "negs". There's tons of similarities if you look closely. Its not that we're the same though, we're two sides of the same coin, we're complimentary. They do certain things and we have to react and act in certain ways to keep it working, then we do something and they have to do certain things, or they lose OUR interest and we drop them. The real fun is when you both have equally good game.

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I think you are confused. The "game" you are talking about them having, is to weed out the losers and AFCs. That's not THEM running game, that's them interacting with OUR game. Their game involves putting makeup on, and skimpy dresses to attract us. If a woman is attracted to a guy and makes an approach and wants to have sex with, chances are she isn't going to shit test him.

Women generally shit test the unproven people she's wary about and who are showing interest in her. They also shit tests men as a means to determine if the guy is long term material or not. By "shit testing" him, she is testing his survival traits that she desires in a mate. If she wants to just have sex with him, she doesn't have to do much other than show up. We on the other hand have to use psychological methods to achieve our goals.

Women need 0 game to attract another man. If by game you mean a skimpy skirt and high heels, then yes, they run game.

Girl goes into club and asks 10 guys to go home with her and have sex with her. Chances are that she'll be taken up on that offer 10 out of 10 times. This is without really having any conversation. All she needs to do is be attractive for the guy. As a guy, we can't get away with that. Not even Brad Pitt.

Well, I don't know what girls you usually interact with saqchek, but the ones I like (maybe just cause of the type of game I run) play along with my game and game be back. Its like sparring. You say some racey stuff and she will say some things to hold you back, then you say something to DHV and neg her and then she wants your attention back, so she'll say something racey back and then you hold her off. Its how you create massive sexual tension and great rapport.

When you start looking at the whole thing like a game and not just a formula that if followed correctly will yield the desired result, then you'll find that they want to win the game just as much as you do, so they'll be running game on you as well. The catch is, you have to have your game calibrated properly, because if you say, "Oh, great, you're interested, lets fuck!" then you lose, you have to play the game together in order to win.

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What i'm saying to you and telling him is, a woman doesn't need "game" (like we do) to get laid. I didn't say they didn't play to our game, I said they didn't need any game. They don't. If they want to get laid, all they have to do is ask.

If I wanted to, I could go get laid by just asking till I found a girl looking for a quick fuck too. Would be harder than a girl asking any guy, but the result is the same, a very unsatisfying encounter. You want chemistry, you want attraction. That's what they game does, it creates those things and it allows you to find out whether a girl is the type you're looking for, by whether she plays well. If she doesn't play the game the way I like, I ditch her, cause she failed my tests, just like how women weed men out, so they can find the best partners and the ones they can make a good connection with. THAT'S the reason for using game, otherwise you would just stop working on it as soon as you could use it to get into a girl's pants.

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thanks guys, you really cleared up my questions and more