Throughout the years I've avoided chicks with such attitude problems like the plague..

Still do..

I mean seriously guys, tell me why I should waste my time trying to be some broads therapist?

I ran into one today at the vets office, and had a distinct lack of desire to even attempt to interact with her. I sort of got the impression I was attempting to have a conversation with Miss Teen S.C.

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Except this chick was about half or less as attractive, and had the personality of a piece of granite. I mean I'm a guy not a miracle worker or Dr. fuckin' Phil.

You get alot of this down here where I'm from, in the bible belt. Like I said, tell me why I should bother?

Interested in hearing some varied opinions on this subject.

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I understand where you are coming from, but a part of me loves to interact with the divas of society. So I just like to really see how much bs these girls actually have stored in them.

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Yeah I know what you mean..

I suppose it's been my experience that most of them aren't worth the trouble...

IMO, these bitch shields are their unnatural reactions to the mating process, their inability to deal with healthy male/female interaction, or damage that has been done to them in the past. And of course often a unhealthy perception of men in general.

You see this a lot especially in the south, where girls are still restricted socially to their particular social circles.. It's been beatin' into their heads, in a manner of speaking that any male outside of this circle is deemed a threat, etc.. So they acquire such a facade as a defensive mechanism, which is often a cover for low self esteem and repressed shame.

Often if you look deeper, you'll find a pattern of abuse and exploitation within their social circles themselves and this behavior is anything but natural.

Find the same girl alone or drunk and you typically have an immature and a somewhat repressed social persona that's relatively easy from a pick up perspective. Therefore the bitch shield is used a protection mechanism in lew of the social and interpersonal education she so obviously missed along the line somewhere.

I mean if you've got the patience or enough in common with a particular girl of this stripe, or you are part of a social circle where they are the groupies then have at it. I suppose for us independent sorts, these women are simply not worth the trouble. And are most often at the lower end of the scale socially, intellectually as well as sexually.

Absolutely a discount that's pissed because she's not a premium.

Like I said Dr. Phil I'm not. But increasingly as this society slides into the great social abyss, and away from natural male/female roles and interaction in public, etc.. you see more and more unnatural and sometimes even exploitative and abusive social behavior from both men and women. This feeds into it in my opinion, almost like a self fulfilling prophecy or something.

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I find the "my shiit dont stink" attitude a major turn off also. A slight bitch shield is a healthy thing for most chicks though.

I'm not sure I can agree..

Women today are free to express themselves as are men.

If they aren't interested or aren't actively seeking a mate, it doesn't mean they can't be pleasant, mature, or communicate this fact. Although this seems to be the whole concept behind having a bitch shield.

On the contrary, being rude or nasty in the form of a bitch shield is counter productive in my view. And something that have learn to exhibit based upon a fundamental misunderstanding of men and healthy social interaction. A solution to a problem that often doesn't exist except perhaps in their own minds. And a solution that only complicates matters.

The problem I see is many men are not discriminating, and encourage bitch shields from women.

If we as a community started leaving such chicks with inappropriate behavior alone (making it clear we wont tolerate such immature and anti social behavior), fairly soon they would either implode or seek to change their behavior.

But as long as attractive girls can get away on looks and beauty alone, they will have little incentive to develop other, and often more important aspects of their personalities beyond just putting up a bitch shield and then only responding to the biggest asshole in every crowd, or depending upon alcohol to remove it.

I still maintain a bitch shield is indicative of psychological problems in many women. And is a sign of a lack of social education or an unhealthy attitude towards the opposite sex. Remember you heard it here.

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I completely agree with that point. I also think that a lot of men have actually contributed, knowingly OR unknowingly to the problem of the bitch shield. I mean, that naturals and the PUA's haven't so much, because they understand the social interactions. But then, when you have every AFC, Tom, Dick, and Harry out there (no offense to Tom, Dick, OR Harry), then I think that these guys actually cause the problem we call the bitch shield. Because they DON'T know how to handle social interactions. And, of course, most of us have been in that spot before ourselves.

You know, it's not just the guys that hit on the women all the time that cause the "bitch shield", but it's even on a daily basis when people are just not using their heads, lol. And . . . I better shut up right now or we'll dig a hole we can't get out of . . .

And I also agree that the women that act like "my shit don't stink" are just severely egostical and just WAY beyond what we should be tolerating. And yet, most people do JUST that, tolerate it, which makes the idiotic attitude stick even more. Of course, there's men that have the same fucked up attitude. Really, even that stems from insecurity.

Yeah, there's plenty of shyt on both sides of the equation.. I didn't mean to insinuate differently..

We of course are the exception on the male side, by the mere fact that we're trying to better ourselves by comparing notes and learning the game at whatever level we personally happen to be at.

Chicks have been doing this sort of stuff since time began, and with the advent of the sexual revolution and so many women having access to an education today, etc.. we men have been falling way behind.

Every guy here should congratulate themselves for making the effort. If nothing else that shows you're a cut above most men right there.

As for bitch shields they usually come down with time and enough familiarity with a particular that's why they can sometimes be so frustrating. We're always having to prove ourselves over and over again in different social circles. This is compounded today by such a mobile society. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. It increases the numbers exponentially.

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