What is the overall effect of paying for sex on game and social shyness?

It is not masturbation, (which is adverse to game) but still makes me unsure of its effects. Is it really bad for game or in fact good for game?

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never done it...and not passing judgement on those who do....BUT id say its good for sexual combat experience if ur not getting any sex for a long time...but absolutely devastating on your self esteem,confidence and self respect...it would destroy any inner game you may have..buts thats just my 2 cents

Sex is sex. If your biggest sticking point is sexual confidence realted - as in you have fear associated with performance ONLY, than it might be a good thing for YOU to try. Not for everyone. Obviously don't break the law either.

I would imagine however, it to be a great place to be volnerable and sincere with a girl and ask for help. When you are paying for a service, you can explain up front what your issue is and that you want help with it. After all you are the customer, so pleasing the customer is #1. I certainly would not recommend a street walker for this as they are the scum of the earth in most cases and just want to be done with you as fast as possible. However an escort is technically being paid for her "time". If nothing else, there is nothing illegal with talking to a sexy girl about stuff that bothers you and paying for it, especially with the bonus of potential happy ending if she likes you. Just don't be stupid and say "i want to fuck you for this money."

However if you are considering this in lieu of pushing yourself to talk to girls without paying for it, then you are asking for permission to use crutches. If you're legs aren't broken and you wan't crutches anyway, than you are a waste of everyones time.

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However if you are considering this in lieu of pushing yourself to talk to girls without paying for it, then you are asking for permission to use crutches. If you're legs aren't broken and you wan't crutches anyway, than you are a waste of everyones time.[/quote]
psych3r has a point but there the other side of the coin if you or not getting any action for along time or if you never had ya would be very tempted and if ya started you may look at it as an easy way to go round it i think you must get out there and meet girls looks dont matter ya get with a real girl it will help you or confidence he who dares wins

I got into a bad habit of paying for sex around a year ago, introduced to me by a couple mates, it becomes addictive. I did find that it effected my game, i was always ok with girls but when i was in the middle of that habit i became very lazy, i guess i thought i didnt have to try because i could always just pay for it.

in the end i gave it up and its been great ever since. I dont think its bad, just if it turns into something that damages other areas of your life then it should be let go of.

Dude,

we're paying for sex one way or another. Dating is one of the biggest way guys pay for sex. We have to invest our time into the girl, take her out, pay for shit, just to dream of having sex with her by the end of the night. What the fuck is this?



Jokes aside, I don't believe in paying for sex. If you're looking for instant gratification and you're willing to pay for it, go for it. If you're looking for one night stands, booty call, etc. etc. I advised you become really close to your "escorts" or go out, meet a girl, and see where you can go with this. I suggest going out and meeting a girl though because it's cheaper on your pockets, but if you're willing to pay for sex, then hey be my guest and do something for the economy.


Oh the irony......


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"In order to fill your cup, you must first empty your cup" - Bruce Lee

"Becoming great with women is a by product of becoming great yourself" - Cory Skyy

I am comming off of a LONG dry spell, I'm talking years. so I needed to just get over the "sex is a big deal" mind set and remind myself that it was just sex - in
essence it's just a physical transaction and professional women understand that.
No pressure, no strings attached... I found it useful just to get back in the game...

Since then I've gotten one new number doing approaches and one F Close via facebook... So it definately helped me relax and feel more comfortable around women again... I still have some AA problems... and am not doing as many approaches as I should, but I'm working on getting out on the town and getting aquainted with the local hang outs so I know where to go and when...

Lovecraft...

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I've personally never paid fir sex. In my afc days, went for 4yrs w/o, between ltr's.

Idk... IMO, sex is just so much better with a girl you're really into. I've had sex with women, just for the sake of having it... I'd much rather be with a gf, I'm totally into, it's so much better.

That's just my opinion. I guess check out some free porn. If you're still rearing to go, find a clean, semi-exclusive, hot, paid escort that turns out side jobs.

Never have never will.

Its like politics. Too right and you are republican, too left and you are a democrat, if you have no limits whatsoever you will be a bisexual hippie getting high on portopods with wannabe rockstars. But then again you are just looking for justofication for doing this. Im pretty sure you are gonna do it since inception has happened.

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I agree with this 100%. Women either want sex for they're own pleasure. Or the other option could simply be for something in return we're still paying for. Whether this be money, love, or simply the time of dating them when we could be sarging other women.

Do what I do.
Go to the strip join and make friends with the stripper during the day and comment them on their routines when they're practising. :L

If you got money, sex is sex.
I wouldn't pay for it unless it was a spur of the moment thing.

Once every 2-3 weeks i visit a prostitute.
This doen't change my motivation of learning game. It's something completely different.

But it is a hobby of mine, visiting a prostitute. Looking at them behind the windows and choosing them out based on their assets, like a day of shopping.

You cannot compare prostitute sex with girlfriend sex. Here for about 60USD i get a nice horny fuck but that still means she doesn't kiss and she sucks only with a condom, unless i go into the 100-200USD range for a more "full sex"

Even if i was Hugh Hefner, or Brad Pitt, i would still visit prostitutes, hell yeah a 5-some.

A lot of people see it as 'lowering self esteem, hopeless' and that , while it is true for some guys,
I don't see it as that.
When i'm hopeless i rather jack off to free porn.
I see this as a kind of prestige hobby.

Plus with the right mindset it HELPS your game and self-esteem.
If i know i just fucked a gorgeous blonde HB11 with a tight big ass and D tits and perfect nipples that looks like a playboy model for 60USD and no other effort, hell how hard can it be to get her from another place without the 60USD ?? It may not be the right logic ofcourse, but just the idea gives me at least a little confidence in what 'i can get'.

Like some people go to expensive restaurant and try out dishes, or a massage center to get a good massage. i go to the red light district and fuck prostitutes.
Everyone pays for some kind of sensory enjoyment, why not for sexual enjoyment. Why does this kind of enjoyment 'has' to be get for free?


Plus the sex can be really horny sometimes, with the girl acting like in a porn movie moaning hard, deepthroating and slapping your cock on her face and spitting on your cock and screaming 'fuck me' , although you have to find the right one because some of them are ripoffs, you pay but she just lies there and you can't touch anything and you have to cum in 5 minutes.

I literally don't give a fuck about what other people think of me visiting prostitutes (too bad it's the only thing i don't give a fuck about lol)
My friends, my family and even some female friends know i visit prostitutes lol. I literally don't give a fuck what they think. It is a cool hobby of mine, no one will ever take this hobby away from me.

I love the sex industry and i actually have respect for a lot of prostitutes, there are some intelligent brave women there (i'm not talking about the street addict whores). I actually think prostitutes are one of the smartest women, at least on the social skill of understanding/acting/manipulating other people.

And a lot of people can hate prostitutes, but i see them as smart women. They can take out the whole 'selling your pussy for money makes you worthless' idea out of their head and benefit from it, hell it is easy money. If i was a woman, i would be a prostitute no doubt!! Who doens't want the easy money.

Prostitutes is the best invention to mankind, and one of the oldest female professions

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you can learn alot from the post above mine.

if the idea of visiting a prostitute freaks you out - then you have some insecurities. if you really think about it , it should be a normal conversation topic.

prostitutes are smart .. woman love sex .. why not get paid for it ? why would you go out and fuck someone in a bar - no charge ? Like the last reply ; im not talking about cheap addicted street whores either.

i wouldn't visit a prostitute because i know i will get to lazy i don't have to game or be social - i can just pay and fuck her hard. even tho i can work very hard i can be a very lazy person , instant gratification doesn't work for me.

this is a really good thread .. i really like the replies , especially replies of egocentric and lovecraft....visiting a prostitute can be a good thing - it can break certain neuro-assocations about sex and woman - it's not a big deal at all.

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good post. I myself have been in Egocentric position. i dont think it hurts your game. consider it a service, like getting a hair cut or nails done. It does get you lazy since you know you can just pay for it thats where you have to draw the line. Its much funner to Go out and game, More satisfaction in it. whats that old saying?

"if you take a date out and spend more then 200$ on her and try to get her to put out.. might as well get a hooker"

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If we view 'this' as a game paying for sex can be regarded as using a cheat code. As long as you have the dough and prostitutes are readily available where you live you can easily obtain sex. Rather than it being a mutual thing between two people it's turned into a 'service' for the 'client'.

I've been paying for sex for many years now and it's the only form of sex I have had. It feels somewhat good knowing I can get sex whenever I want and that the hookers usually seem to enjoy it etc. But I can never get over the fact that it is 'cheating' and that I'm only getting sex because I'm paying money for it.

Sometimes I think since I'm not getting sex by any other means I might as well use hookers. As in, I let myself blow my money because I want sex by any means - it's only because I don't have a girlfriend or casual partners that it costs me a fortune. But I think even this mentality is bad.

I think I can manage to go without sex, I never feel desperate for the need to have sex, but for some reason I always find myself at the brothel anyway. Even when I'm more interested in saving money as opposed to women I still go. And it's been going on like this for quite some time now.

So, my primary objective in my life at the moment is to get unpaid-for-sex. And I don't think this can be achieved by 'giving up' and visiting a hooker again because it just puts me back into that weird state of 'contentedness' where I'm happy just paying for it as opposed to trying to develop a bit more 'realness' and meaning in my love/sex life. Time and time again I have used the cheat code which takes the fun out of the game.