I agree with most of the responses you're getting, but I'll add my 2 cents.

Consider just not negging at all. IMHO negging is over-rated and frequently done wrong. I think you need to establish the right playful dynamic and have some foundation of attraction/comfort built before you throw a neg. And at that point, why bother. In other words, there really is no good time for a neg. Again, just my opinion. Mystery uses negs all the time and has success with them (unless you measure success as long term relationships, based on The Game). If you watch Mystery in action, you can see that he creates a context in which a neg will be taken the right way, he's acting like a big brother when he does it. This is hard to pull off right. If you can do it, it establishes a closeness because only someone close to you would dare throw a neg.

So, let's get to my point. For most people I would advise not using negs. I think there are other safer and easier ways to establish a quick connection that are more natural for more people.

If negs are working for you, go for it. But if you're pissing girls off with your negs, I'd leave it behind and work on other parts of your game.

Good luck.

terabyte,

it may be that the way you come across in general (your vibe, the way you talk, the 'feeling' the girl gets of who you are) is simply not congruent with negs.

one person says something and everybody laughs, the other person says the same WITH THE SAME DELIVERY, and people think he's a dork.

maybe negs are just not you. why do you feel compelled to use them? because someone on VH1 says so? you're wasting your time. you can get all the girls you want without negs. just use something else and concentrate on important parts of your game, rather than fitting your game to one specific theory.

another newsflash is that negs don't work for 85% of men who try to use them. so you're not alone there. negs make sense in theory but in life it simply hardly works.

the bottom line is getting girls and HOW doesn't matter. pick whatever works for you (as long as it's civilized obviously) and stop bothering yourself with petty nuances.


all the best

gigi
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If you use negs, use them to build more attraction when you've already established some. Negs from a guy she percieves as high value = good. Negs from a guy she just met and really could care less about = game over.

My personal view of negs is this. They should be playful and ironic. They are meant to tease the girl and challenge her. This gives her fun and drama = value. She'll tease back, and you can run a whole attraction phase teasing and busting on each other. It's FUN.

If you're using negs to make yourself feel like a big boy, then you'll make an ass of yourself. If you're using them to take her down a notch and steal the value pedestal for yourself, then you'll make an ass of yourself. Take Joe D in the VH1 show for example. A girl was petting his dog and he gave her a neg. Even though he said it in a playful way, he just came across as a dick. The girl simply walked away because there was no attraction generated - just a totally miscalibrated dick move.

I agree

dude, body language and voice tonality say like 95% of what you really mean. words are a small part of the equation

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you might have said it in a tone that wasn't good. If you use a neg it has to be subtle nothing over the top just enough of a hit to get them thinking. You want wonder, not a negative mindset. Otherwise you will be playing damage control bring her to your level, and disarm her but don't beat her down. I would like to know the tone of your voice, and how you went into this set.