Hey,

I'm just starting off in the PUA community. I've read a couple of books by some of the main PUA's (Style, David D., Mystery), and I was wondering what should be my next steps?

Currently I am in university, and I'm trying to learn new ways to build game/confidence. Shedding the AFC title is something I'm enthusiastic about doing.

Your advice would be greatly appreaciated!

I you haven't already been out sarging now would be a good time. You probably know what you need to start out. Also you learn a lot more in the field and you build much quicker confidence to. So just go for it mate.

Ok, fair dues but I think I'm just looking for something to work with (some basic openers). Where do I learn some of the basics on this topic?

The opener isn't really all that important. I think it was Juggler who said that as to opening a fart or a snort is sufficient. Kinda profound. However if you want to make your own opener I think that an opener that deals with some sorta dating problem is great. Girls always have a lot to say about this topic

As to where to learn the basics of the topic you could get Art of Approaching by Thundercat.

Otherwise just use the stuff taught to you by David, Mystery and Style. I personally believe that it doesn't really take a lot of theory to open efficiently. All it takes is some practice.

Hope I could be to some help

It's a weird mindset when you first start sarging. Most guys are kind of programmed to think that "oh that shit won't work". A lot of this stuff seems counter-intuitive, and it's hard reprogramming yourself. I'm definetly not a total AFC, but my experiences have pretty much required as much skill as shooting fish in a barrel. I'm going out tonight, and hopefully I can apply some of the things I've learned.

Say your in large party/bar setting. How important is setting an initial time constraint? When you come back to the person how would you proceed?

kingston, if you've already read David D, Mystery, and Style, you should already HAVE some openers and ideas for openers.

False Time Constraints are good when you're just starting out. You don't want to hang around if things are going stale, but then again, if things are going good, don't short circuit yourself either.

When/if you come back, it would be a good idea to bring a pivot with you, or even take a pivot from the original set you opened to merge with another set.

Had my first bar f-close on Friday. False time constraints kept her interested, but there is still this nervousness I couldn't seem to shake (hence the constant false time constraints). Alcohol really wasn't a factor so I can take pride in that. However, I find it really hard to sarge outside that sort of SPAM, and I can't really figure out why.

On a side I'm just curious about something. Can you give me some pointers on body language, and how to convey that rockstar-type charisma.

Thanks,

P.S. Your reputation is really high, I was just wondering about your level of success when you go out sarging.

When you get used to sarging in a bar/club and you're not experienced, then you do have to get experienced outside of that environment too. You use the same BASIC principles, as far as the social dynamics, but obviously the game itself is played differently. You don't have loud music, you don't have alcohol, and you or the other person don't have the same time constraints. Also, she is probably not looking for sex elsewhere, when not all, but a lot of girls in the night scene are. As far as her nervousness, you say she still fucked you, so apparently you got her over her nervousness, unless you did something that I won't respond to here.

Rockstar type charisma? lol. That mainly comes down to confidence, in yourself.

My level of success when I go out sarging. Well, I'm not the best, and can ALWAYS improve, but Rye Lee can tell you about a few of the "successes" I've had. I can pick up girls, and do. However, I also have a lot of areas I can improve in too.

the quickest way to gain the confidence is to quit caring...

quit caring if you mess up
quit caring what others think
quit caring about closing


by doing this your confidence level will go up 10 fold. Once you get to this point you can walk into a bar, fall and eat shit... then get up, bow and wave to everybody like you just finished a performance and number close an HB from it.

good luck and keep up the good work

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Hey,

Okay where do I start sarging in a university town? Bars and clubs are the only places that seem normal at this point.

first off.. what school do you go to, how big is the greek population, and how big is the undergrad population..

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Well, depends on what you call "normal", lol. There are those "special societies" within the college itself, and then there's bars/clubs, but there's also everywhere you go during the day too. Don't forget about day game. I mean, those college girls have to work somewhere too, for the most part anyway. Then there's other single ladies working everywhere too.

In response to the last two posts...
I go to a medium sized school, with no greek population, and I don't exactly know the undergrand population size.

What do you mean by "special societies"? I'm assuming like frats and that sort of stuff...

I think in a university setting everyone is constantly on the move, and unless the person seems unoccupied the idea of disturbing someone who is very stressed seems freightening lol.

Yep, frats and the other groups on most campuses. Dude, you're gonna have to let go and learn to start meeting people that are stressed. lol, that's not just uni life, that's real life. If you want the girls that are unoccupied, you could always settle for the 3-5's that are straight out geeks or anti-social. There's a safe bet for you.