Hey guys. I opened this HB 8 out about two weeks ago and #Closed her. I rang her later on in the week and used style's jelous girlfriend opener. It seemed to work quite well. She wasnt in town at the time so I didnt try to arrange anything, also there was a theme party at our uni bar the next week and I knew I would see her there. She had given me a few IOI's in conversation so I assumed I was sweet for the uni bar dress up. WRONG!!! She totally blew me off that night and didnt aknowledge me. That was on thursday night. Last night (Saturday) she was out again and I did the same thing back to her. I group theoried the fuck out of her with at least three groups, two were all girls. Anyway she was there when I was waiting for a taxi and was like, you lied the other day about your friend. I denied it of corse. However being drunk I messaged her later on saying I did lie. I was well and truly over trying to get her but I was keen to find out how she could tell. I rang her this morning and was like yeah I lied why didnt it work. She said that the story (opener) was a shit story and that I didnt tell it too well, or convincing. I personally think that it is a good opener just that i didnt perform it too well. We talked for about twenty minutes after that so all isnt lost but if i continue trying I will fall into oneitis so im letting it go.

Practice your material. What some guys dont understand is that you cant just go and repeat these lines over and over to a girl and expect them to fall for it. About 90% of it is presentation. David DeAngelo recommends to get a book on storytelling however I forget what it is. I think this one looks good, click here.

Also, it might be a good idea from now on to not drunkenly text her 'the truth'. And you werent actually lying to her, you were flirting


- Memento

_________________
"Love is three quarters curiosity." ~Casanova
Hominem Unius Libri Timeo



Diploma in Clinical Hypnosis -- GHR & NHS

LOL that cracks me up. Girls critiquing PUA 'shit stories'. Good stuff. Yea, aside from Memento's advice I'd say nail your delivery and body language and you can pretty much get away with saying anything (as long as it's in good fun).

GIRL: You don't have a friend like that. You're using a line on me.
PUA: "Whatever. I've found it's a good way to gauge a girl's values so I can tell if she's worth my time."
No source, this is my own, untested idea.

Hey Carlos. I got busted again using a line last night. I modified an existing opener to create this one; Rove (A famous Australian Television person) had a wife who died last year and now he has a new woman. I the group how long they think you should wait untill dating after his wife died. Thinking of it now it propally was not the best one because the topic was on the negative side. Thats not why i got busted though, I went up with one of my mates, wingman, and didnt aknowlegde him, I didnt say, m friend and I were having a debate.
Anyway she said some refrence to me using a pick up line and I used your countre line. I was like 'Yeah, I use it to see a womans qualities to see weather or not she is worthy of my time'. I responded shoked to them calling me out on the pick up line so I kind of fucked that up. It is a fucking fantastic line man it opened them up a little bit more.

I want to fuckup more lines just so I can pull that bad boy out of the hat again haah. Cheers bro.

honestly dude i think you need to use better openers.. the opener's you're using seem a bit out of this world and unrealistic which makes it very difficult to tell with that level of confidence.

my suggestion is go to simple opinion openers to start off. even if it's going up to a fat chick at a bar and asking where the best place to get some good ice cream is.

Start with personal opinion openers and not one's where you really have to lie.

Basically, quit using openers where you have to lie.. it's not going well

_________________
I'm an asshole and I approve this message

"I swear to tell you the whole truth, nothing but the blunt truth, so help your ego" i only sugarcoat things for women

My favorite commercial ever http://youtube.com/watch?v=TpxKYkcFRWk