Soo in yalls opinion, clittorial vs gspot orgasm. Which one is more crucial... and isn't a big part of the experience for a girl all phychological?

I have a third opinion

I stimulate her BRAIN, dirty talk, aggressive behaviour, womens LIKE to be treated like whores but NOT be one, just play a little.
I has made girls cum in minutes just doing this, but you have to be inspired.

Anyway the other two advices are hell good also.

Alot of guys have it in their head that they must fuck a women and once they have - they are measured on their performance, if they didnt get her off loads then they must improve, alot dont give a shit though.

In my opinion you should approach sleeping with a women - being all about her and getting her off as many times as you can. Or programming yourself to get off on getting her off, instead of it just being a possibilty on the way to shooting your load however many times you do - trust me being able to cum three or so times in a row without rest may make you feel like a stud, but if she derives minimal pleasure from it your still not good in bed. Consider it job done when she cant go on any longer.

If you go about it this way with marathon sessions with girls, there are so many benefits. They talk to their friends about it, so if it's casual you will end up with others wanting to experience it (meta game), you get an insane work out and you get confidence injected into every aspect in your life when they sing your praises during and afterwards - not mention the feeling of having a spent, sweaty and statisfied women in bed curling up next to you like a purring cat.

If your purely physical you are not using your full potential, mental sexual stimulation is a huge must, I cannot agree more ClavoARG, someone else mentioned specific ways of stimulating her mentally by teasing, again this is a definite as your heighting her sexual tension, for example just using the tip of your penis or prolonging the moment before full penetration when they are in I WANT SEX NOW mode makes them want it even more you can do this until they are begging you to fuck them, even asking them if they want to be fucked and then teasing them more will work them into such a sexual frenzy you can get girls cumming extremely quickly.

Foreplay foreplay foreplay foreplay, cant stress this enough, a good way to make girls squirt is to get them on their back push down firmly on their pubic mound rest your thumb on their clit and put two fingers in (the bawling ball grip!) and work up and down vigorously. Dont stop till they drop, while you talk dirty to them if your arm tires, switch from using your forearm to your wrist, if that tires lock your arm and use your shoulder, this gives the rest of your arm some rest and can then go back to another mode - just dont fucking stop even if they go into 'the exorcist' flailing mode haha!

Works over so I gotta finish up here I may edit in some other shit though!

Okay, it seems like you guys think you know what a female orgasm is all about. The 90% is bs, plain and simple, though it could hold true for women having an orgasm with a partner. Most women can make themselves cum and all women can squirt. It's in our biology. It is supposed to feel like you have to pee really bad, but the feeling generates lower, closer to the front pelvic region. If a girl actually has to pee, it's a bit higher and centered. There isn't much of a difference in location, but most women should be able to tell.
All women are different when it comes to which stimulation they prefer. Some want clit, some want g-spot and some want both. Doggy style is not the best way to achieve g-spot orgasm. The best way is actually with your hands. You can find it very easily, but it isn't an easy one to get as it is very sensitive to pressure. Insert fingers about two or three inches and you will feel a spongy mass, it isn't tiny, so if you touch something and think, 'that feels kind of big, it can't be right because this thing is supposed to be hard to find', you are wrong. That is really it. It should be a little bigger than two of your fingers on it. Unless you have yeti hands....
Now, you can't go super hard on this. You have to build. We aren't like you at all. We can't just think of some random naughty things and be ready for penetration. Think of it like an old car, you have to let it warm up before you can drive it with out the damn thing cutting out on you. If you jump the gun before she is ready, it is hard to recover and she probably won't tell you.
Spend a minimum of 20 minutes on bedroom foreplay the first time. Use it to your advantage, start learning the body parts she enjoys you touching the most. While you are going down on her, use your hands! Don't let them stay idle!! That doesn't mean finger her a little. Massage her inner thighs, stroke her abs, play with all of the boobies, not just the nipples! The whole surface is nerve endings, our bodies are covered in them! Use your hands on her hips to coerce her into grinding herself into your mouth. Women assume that not all men like that because we are all so different from each other. If you like it, let her know.
Compliment her pussy, how she tastes, how beautiful she looks from that angle, how much you love watching her thrashing around just from your mouth and hands. Anything that comes to mind! We love mental stimulation and letting us know these things can kick us into overdrive.
That doesn't mean talk a lot and don't act like you are timing it. Every few minutes throw out something that is currently turning you on. Ask her if she wants you to do something different. Don't be insecure when you ask, tell her you want to make it the best experience she has had.
Women have a hard time keeping their mind on the fact that this is happening to them. Our mental blocks can sometimes manifest through us distancing ourselves from our bodies experience. We disassociate. Yes, we can feel it happening, but we are gifted at denial. Use her name! Keep her informed that it is her this is happening to.
Onto the sex...
Pounding away like you are a jackhammer can be nice, but don't let that be all you do. My personal favorites entail me being in control. (yes, I know I have control issues) On top is easy, but the best is him standing with her riding. Do this in front of a mirror. Tell her to watch, but not watch you. You want her to see her as you do right then. Tell her all of the things that are turning you on about how she looks and feels. Our faces get flushed, our heads roll back, our hair gets crazy, makeup starts running... we look pretty savage, don't we?? lol
Ask her what her favorite position is and do it. 'What do you like?' is golden! It sounds lame, but it works. You don't really need to game anymore, so don't be so worried about how it is coming across. You already got her naked, right??!!
Don't get stuck in a position, move around. This is subconsciously telling us that you are enjoying yourself so much that you want to explore the possibilities of making it better. After she cums, take over for a little while. We have much more intense orgasms than men do and we are required (or requested) to have multiple where you guys only have one and then it's 'don't touch me!' Hardly fair. Give us a minute to recoup and let our heads stop spinning.
When it's time for you to cum, make sure you ask her where/how she likes it. Most of us have a preference and we will probably tell you.
When you are done, don't just roll out of bed and be done. Lay in the afterglow for a few minutes. Both of you should be panting, sweaty and your mind is probably mush. Stroke her body very lightly with your fingertips, you will see goosebumps. Don't make us feel used and tossed, you might not be invited for a second go.
Last bit of advice.... do something different that is memorable! I have had some pretty amazing compliments, but one tops them all. This gorgeous man, total 10 (bodybuilder), is in the middle of banging me. We have been at if for a very long time and we are absolutely parched!!! We both keep fantasizing about water, but it is really good, so we don't want to stop, right? He picks me up and says he can't take not having the water anymore, but he also can't take having to stop, so we are going to get both. He keeps bouncing me up and down a bit to get me to take over, then stumbles his way across the house. He is pausing along the way to toss me against a wall and take over for a few minutes, then remembers the mission for water and continues onto the kitchen. Grabs a bottle of water, we take turns drinking and rubbing the cold bottle all over each other (we are both very hot) and starts making his way back to the bed. We made it to the stairs. It doesn't sound like a big deal, but I was elated that he loved what we were doing so much that he literally could not stop.

Are you saying that based on you and your group of friends? Women who are sexual aware can cum by themselves because they have been masturbating by themselves ever since puberty. The muscle required for orgams in you are well developed and active. Theoretically ALL women can orgasm in sex, can have full body orgasm, and can cum, but it doesnt mean most women do. It is like you said, biology, and it is in mother natures programming that thing you dont use are either lost or put into hibernation. MOST women do not know how to get clit orgasm, even less know how to have a gspot orgasm, and even less know how to cum and even more less know a full body orgasm: looks like even you are not familiar with it.

I am all for foreplay, I personally prefer a "day long" foreplay starting from a date, constantly teasing the girl and then telling her she cant yet. This drives women crazy and gets them really revved up. You cant separate foreplay from sex, its just impossible, otherwise its just someone puttin something in your vagina and doing stuff with it. No emotional impact, and no synergy. But what i disagree from what you are saying is that ALL women are all ready to simply have mind blowing orgasm right off the bat regardless of how sexually active they were as long as you do the foreplay and the correct technique.

Ill use your analogy, lets say you rev up the engine and you know how to drive, the fact that it hasnt been used for 10 years means that you would need to
Tweak certain things and replace the oil and such in order for it to go to 200 miles per hour.

Thats is why for women who havent orgamsed their entire life, it would be a step up to have amazing clit orgasm the first session. Amazing pelvic gspot orgasms the second etc. And a whole lot more to be able to orgasm during actual penetration. In your case the step up is a full body orgasm. Women are vastly different, some would progress much faster than others, other slower, but one thing i know is that it depends on where she is in terms of sexual release.

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Some good points in here, but a lot of missing the mark.

1. Kegal exercises are good for anyone, guy/girl – but have nothing to do with ability to satisfy a girl or not. It can only make you last longer and have more control over your own orgasm/ejaculation response.

2. all girls can orgasm, all girls can squirt. It's something that is learned on both accounts. (probably only about 50% have learned to orgasm properly, and maybe 30% squirt comfortably). Almost every girl has faked an orgasm in their life, and most will always do it to “please” a guy who isn’t pleasing them. It’s very easy to tell the fake from the real if you know what to look for.

3. squirting is a natural body reaction to over stimulation of a gland that rests between the g-spot and pubic bone. It basically cries – like a tear duct, but the muscles around the area squeeze the fluids out. It’s not pee, and it’s not vaginal fluid, it’s basically sweat with some other stuff in it used to provide the base for the wetness in the vagina when a girl is aroused. To most girls that stimulation feels like when they have to pee, so they often fight to hold it back. When released, it will gush in bursts.

4. Arguing about which type of orgasm is best is down right silly as there are 7 types of female orgasms each with their own profile of sensations. Each women will choose their favorites based on their own physical response to each.

5. using your hands is NOT the best way to cause a g-spot orgasm unless your penis is less than 5” or greater than 8” or you have issues staying fully “hard” during sex. There are many easy ways to give a g-spot O, but the easiest way to give one is if the girl lies on her stomach and you lay on top of her entering from behind. It points the penis directly at the g-spot and you are in essence grinding the head of you cock against it with every thrust.

6. The easiest way to get a girl to squirt is actually a downward angle into it the G-spot when you are hovering over a girl (like missionary) but her legs are on your shoulders – thrust hard and deep, but mix slow and fast in waves. Do not do this until a girl is amply warmed up or has cum several times already or it can cause pain. It will cause intense g-spot orgasms and frequent gushing.

7. The keys to unlocking a girls sexual pleasure potential lies 99% in your ability to connect with her mentally and physically in an arousing manor. No matter how “good” you might be if a girl is cold she will not be satisfied. Only way to warm a girl is by appealing to her mind and creating attraction. During sex, she will use all that pre heating as fuel for the experience and the more of it there is, the more and longer she will enjoy it. More = more, less = less. You get back what you put in.

8. When girl cums from behind it is usually not the g-spot. There are a collection of nerves in the deeper parts of the vaginal above the cervical opening that tend to be stimulated in the “doggy” position. Most of the time orgasms in that position come from those nerves or a combination of those and the g-spot.

9. Contrary to what almost every guy believes, a woman’s sexual satisfaction from a 1-time experience has nothing to do with how many times they had an orgasm. Most women will claim to be perfectly satisfied if the guy cums and they do not, so long as they were strongly aroused and highly attracted. Obviously orgasming is a good thing but most often viewed as a bonus and not expectation.

10. Contrary to popular belief making a girl cum many times will not guarantee that she will be more likely to want more. Deep orgasms do release bonding chemicals that can influence a girl positive response towards you, but her emotional state has a much greater bearing. High positive emotions and you will definitely have round 2, low or negative emotions and you could have rang the bell 100 times and you will not get round 2.

11. The most consistent way to “satisfy” a girl sexually on a first date, is simply to make her feel good and happy to be with you. If she feels comfortable, safe and a little dominated (but not controlled) she will want more. If you approach it like an Olympic sport with a stop clock and counter over your head she will feel like a piece of meat and not be impressed with anything you do.

I can and have made girls come as many as 40 times in one session, given orgasms that lasted as long as 30 minutes and had girls pass out cold from the sheer intensity of an orgasm. Over the years, many of those same girls have cheated, broken it off, or after our relationship been just as satisfied with a guy who couldn’t even make them cum at all.

Don’t get caught up on “performance”, it’s meaningless. Focus on making a girl feel safe, relaxed and special. Master that and your cock could fall off and she would still be satisfied with you.

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What pagan said tbh, although preferences do vary women to women a little bit. @pagan lol at the water thing excellent!

Positive emotions? So that pretty much rules out angry sex doesnt it since it is not emotional, so according to you a girl can not have intense orgasm unles she is emotionally connected to the guy.

And kegel exercises according to you do not help with satisfying a woman despite the fact that it improves your erection making it bigger and better. And you yourself stated that a more erect penis is what improves g spot stimulation. Dont you think you just contradicted yourself?

And deep orgasms releasing bonding chemicals? What, did you dissect her after sex. If anything sex releases toxins. Which is why you often have headache and exhaustion the day after an intension session.

And yes a full body orgasm IS the best orgasm. Its common sense and women have common sense. Its like asking do you want to feel good just on the tip of your finger or feel good on your entire body, "oh no i prefer just the finger." seriously why is there even anyone trying to oppose this.

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I'm saying positive emotions in that the girl has a positive emotional response towards you. A girl who is pissed off can have a very positive reaction to angry sex in the right situation. It's about their impression of the experience.
Kegals do generally improve erection quality, which "can" improve your ability to satisfy, but one does not equal the other.
I'm just stating facts. If you want to look into it go for it. The primary one is called oxytocin. google it.

As for toxins, guys and girls have different physiological and chemical releases during sex. Girls usually have an increase in energy (though they may be physically tired from the act) and feel energized after satisfying sex. Men tend to expend so much energy during, as well as a drop in hydration and fluids from ejaculation that we require a refractory period for the body to recoup.
I never did, nor would disagree with this statement. I also don't see your point in making it. obviously a full body orgasm would be ideal as it incorporates all of your body's nerves rather than just a collection. I don't see how anyone is directly disagreeing with that.

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Wow...
Hibernating orgasms?? Really? Not likely.
As for how do I know? Actually, I kind of have to know this stuff since I was a Passion Party Consultant. You wouldn't believe the questions we get asked. We are required to know the answers or find them.
The actual figures will probably shock you. You seem so determined to be right that it seems you may have overlooked actual research. So, here you go:

Only about 15% of women have yet to achieve orgasm.

Your 90% could be a mix up for how many women attribute their problems with orgasm to being psychological.

About 75% of women do not reach orgasm by penetration alone, then need outside stimulation.

I never said all women were ready to have orgasms instantly. So, I can't really comment on that either way.

If you want to use that analogy, go for it, but you should know that it isn't correct. We might be a little rusty with how we move if we've been out for a few years, but that doesn't mean we can't reach orgasm until we've done it a few times. Doesn't make sense, that would mean that no woman has reached orgasm her first time. She hasn't used it, so it would need tweaking, right? Not really.

About 75% of my orgasms include my entire body. This is why I stressed giving women a reprieve for a few minutes. I can hardly move, my body tries to lock up and it takes everything I have to ride it out. So, I don't need a step up, I need a step down. Full body isn't the best when you feel dizzy, can't regulate your breathing and can't stop shivering, but again, this is based on personal preference.

Try not to be this 'factual' when talking to your women. We don't like it when you tell us you know what we like better than we do. It simply isn't the case. Ask any woman why she would want be with another woman. The answer will likely be the same across the board, 'because women know what women like' and that is a fact.

Those statistics are highly misleading.

1. Surveys are based on answers are subjective to lying. People psychologically want to make others think that they are having a blast because its "their" life.

2. Most of the orgasm women report as orgasms are often so puny they dont even really count. And it takes so much effort to get there, risky vs reward ratio is negative.

3. Yes i base my assumptions on expereicne AND on research, AND putting into account the psychological element that people's experiences are subjective to a person's emotions and how its ties with their overall self esteem. Go interview some axe murderers and they would rate their happiness level pretty high. People overrste their actual satisfaction.

What im saying is For example if a woman has never EVER actually orgasmed her entire life, it would be a step up to actually get them to orgasm on your first time. You just cant get them to have intense orgasms involving HIBERNATING MUSCLES and dormant nerve endings, that have most likely atrophied or just non responsive for the first time if they havent even trully orgasmed their entire life. Not to mention they have nothing to base it on. All they know it feels really good. Why do think there are people who can raise eyebrows individual while others cant? Because they simply DO NOT KNOW how to activate those muscle. Its the same with intense orgasms.

If you are talking about backing this with actual facts then you should know that orgasm are not some MAGICAL ENERGY that you can cast on someone simply because you are so emotionally connected to them or that your skills are simply awesome. Orgasms come from mutiple muscle contractions and nerves endings throughout the body. CLITORAL ORGASM and G SPOT orgasm are basically the same muscle but different locations. THE G SPOT is much more pleasurable becasue it activates a bigger portion of that same muscle. PELVIC ORGASM are orgasm that go beyond and activate the nearby pelvic muscles and nerves which makes it even more pleasurable. A FULL BODY orgasm is where your entire body resonates and the contractions of the muscles and the firing of the nerves go beyond the pelvic region. 99 percent of people do not even reach that their entire life. Yes you would need to "tweak" a girl which is called a "release" in order for her go from a puny orgasm, to a pelvic orgasm, and to a full body orgasm. Based on what you have said, seems like your body is close to a full release since you been sexually active for several years. A release basically escalates a woman capability to orgasm equal to several years of being sexually active and even beyond that. And yes it is possible for a woman to not orgasm the first time simply because of pysiological and psychological barriers.

You are basing your assumptions on the people who consult you guys in your business. A demographic of people who are already sexually inclined enough to explore sex. Do you think that would be a good sample of the general population?

They have this thing in statistics called a focus group, and your focus group are people who are like you, like the things that you like and in your sex toy business; that is not how most people are.

And no most women do not want to be with other women. That statement is an overused cliche. Again simply what you think and most people in your social circle think doesnt mean that is the universal truth. Ive dated girls in that demographic and yes they are sexually active that being with a woman is nothing to them, but 90 percent of other people dont go for sodomy.

My case in point:
They say "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing." Simply because you have googled this stuff and got your hands on some "sex facts," doesnt mean someone should simply take it as it is. The reason why politicians use statistical percentage so much is because is misleading if taken outside of context and do not know to it applies to the bigger picture. Try googling that, i have actually taken a "psychology of statistics" class and know how flawed it is. Orgasms are biological and not some magical thing. It is dependent on A LOT more importantly psychological, emotional and physiological factors. You can not ignore any of it. I do not overemphasize any of them, but in this particular response i am explaining the physiological requirements for it. Its just like moving a leg, you cant move your leg if you dont have muscles for it, and you cant certainly do a triple backflip. Same with sex, small orgasms require little muscle contractions and some nerve endings, the bigger the orgasms the more muscle and nerve endings it requires. If the muscle needed and nerve endings needed are dormant, you wont have a big orgasm. Hope that is straight forward enough.

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The reason i am being factual here is because this is basically a factual debate, simply because you are a woman doesnt mean im going to treat you like "my woman." Gender is irrelevant and that is how it should be in debates. And it is also interesting how you initially criticize me for not having enough facts and in the end critisize me for being so factual. Which one is it really?

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You lost me here simply because of how ridiculous this statement is.
On a side note... Did you ever think that maybe it's just the women you bed that are not having orgasms? If that's the case, I would stop researching on paper and focus more on technique. Good luck on that one.

LOL!

Are we really still talking about this two months later? fuckimout is obviously never touched a girl or he wouldn't be saying what he's saying. I love how he's gonna tell a girl what an orgasm feels like haha...awkward no?
Pagan makes a lot of good points but go ahead and disagree with her. Not like she would know what an orgasm feels like.
And everyone else is just saying what i said in different words.

can someone please lock this thread? case in point I was right, and pagan agrees now get over it.

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Yes yes i agree with you guys. I suck at sex. Never even touched a girl. Never fucked a girl. Never even been with a girl. All of the things i have said are merely products of my imagination.

Pagan_goddess and Dannyy Boy are the sex queen and king. They are both the go-to gurus when it comes to sex. I bow to your awesomeness.

I guess I'll just have to sigh and regretfully walk away from this thread with my tail between my legs and go back to my sad life.

"Blind leading the blind."

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Maybe just chill out a little bro. Pagan and others have offered some very valid opinions on the topic and each and everytime you took a defensive stance and tried to pull the convo back to your opinions on everything and flat out argued with whatever was left.

Based on my experiences a lot of what you are saying sounds like you've had a few good experiences and so you think you are an expert on the topic. Some of it directly counters what I know to be true from all the research, practice and feedback I've gotten in my life.

Maybe take more of a conversational stance instead of hijacking the thread to be focused on your "opinions" of the topic. Someone who truly understands how to deeply and consistently satisfy women would also undertsand humility.

@pagan_goddess

You have a common perspective and your experiences are absolutely valid, but they are also the product of a subset. Some of what you are saying no one can deny, however I know some of those opinions and figures to be inaccurate from what I've seen. I'm not trying to argue about it, but I do think you are weighting your claims on those specific experiences. The type of women who attend sex toy parties are the type of women who meet those statistics.

There are also plenty of women who go to bars and clubs on the weekend to get fucked and have tons of orgasms. There are also those who have perfectly satisfying sexlives with one partner and would never go to such a toy party. And of course there are plenty others who simply view sex as dirty and wouldn't even discuss it.

One thing Fvckitimout said that holds weight is that people lie on surveys all the time. And they typically only represent a subset - the type willing to take a survey on the subject.

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